My wife wants me to sell everything because the markets down. What do I tell her?

Discussion in 'Share Investing Strategies, Theories & Education' started by d3outguncom, 9th Jul, 2021.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. Trainee

    Trainee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th May, 2017
    Posts:
    10,345
    Location:
    Australia
    While its great for a couple (or family) to work together on investments, having one person who is totally not interested isn't a bad thing either.
     
    Rugrat, wylie, SatayKing and 2 others like this.
  2. Redwing

    Redwing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    7,488
    Location:
    WA

    Here's your VAS & VGS, if she's worried now, how would she handle something like the Feb-March period last year?

    upload_2021-7-10_7-47-6.png


    upload_2021-7-10_7-47-31.png
     
  3. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,859
    Location:
    My World
    ….. this is what I like to hear….:)
    Happy wife, happy life:p
     
    boganfromlogan likes this.
  4. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,859
    Location:
    My World
    You mean a newer model:)
     
  5. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    13,524
    Location:
    Melbourne
    This is where you might consider putting your money into an asset that is both relatively illiquid and less visible in valuation - i.e. property (be it resi or commercial/industrial).

    I find I get much less comments from the other half about the unlisted comm prop trusts we have, as 1. the unit prices don't move that much - let's face it, the valuations are only done every 12 months 2. relatively illiquid (esp the closed ended ones!) so the ability to pull the money out is not there (just like trying to sell a resi IP is not as simple as pressing a button with your mouse).

    The Y-man
     
    Anne11 likes this.
  6. SatayKing

    SatayKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    10,781
    Location:
    Extended Sabatical
    He he. My gut feeling from reading a number of these posts is the OP could now be thinking "You aren't helping!"
     
    craigc, Redwing and Anne11 like this.
  7. Gockie

    Gockie Life is good ☺️ Premium Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    14,790
    Location:
    Sydney
    My partner won't invest even though he has seen my properties do well and the share market gains. I dont know if I can do anything about it. And we've been together since around 2001....
     
  8. SatayKing

    SatayKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    10,781
    Location:
    Extended Sabatical
    True to a large extent but in this case the OP advises the problem is she is.
     
    Redwing and Firefly99 like this.
  9. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,248
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    You've got the ultimate passive investor - he lets you do as you like & reaps the benefits.

    Take an eachway bet - sell down 50% & ask her what she wants to do with it AFTER you allow for tax.
     
    Mark F likes this.
  10. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    25,059
    Location:
    Vaucluse, Sydney.
    As long as they don't take a sudden interest with harsh criticism when things don't work out and remain silent when growth is amazing. Can't have have it both ways. Well you can but it'll only grow resentment in a relationship. My friend's wife is like that to a tee. Absolutely no interest or help when he works so hard and does well with investing. She doesn't say a word and just enjoys the benefits. At the first hint of trouble, she's the first to blast him.

    Some people are so out of touch with what's fair in a relationship it does my head in.
     
    wylie, Firefly99 and GoldDaze like this.
  11. GoldDaze

    GoldDaze Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Feb, 2021
    Posts:
    49
    Location:
    Sydney
    Your friend's partner could be any one of my kids partners unfortunately, despite our kids having witnessed both their parents joint efforts working to increase the family wealth. I would be handing d's wife some books & research material that he has no doubt studied with effort & industry & telling her that after she has spent time studying them they could then have a sensible discussion about investing & their joint goals. Ah easy to say but hard to do when U gotta live with someone like that. Keep investing & keep your powder dry
     
  12. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    25,059
    Location:
    Vaucluse, Sydney.
    Yeah I agree mate, not an easy situation when 1 partner is dead against it for whatever reason. I think there needs to be compromise somewhere. Otherwise unfortunately the uncompromising partner will be adding to the divorce statistics. Imho 1 of the reasons divorce rates are so high is because many humans refuse to compromise in a relationship .
     
  13. Mark F

    Mark F Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    29th Jan, 2020
    Posts:
    1,033
    Location:
    Canberra
    I think the first step is to find out what your partner expects financially in retirement and before. Then comes the questions about how you are going to achieve those goals.

    If your long term goals are not aligned then things are going to become problematic.
     
    Mws, oracle, mdk and 1 other person like this.
  14. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,795
    Location:
    ....UKI nth nsw ....
    One year is not a long time in any investment ,and even Worse ,for one part of the team who thinks they know the answer..
    While the other part of the Team has never suffered any real problem yet..

    Is this what you both wanted when you started one year ago,were you both on the same page back then as the reality is few work harder than those who have no choice ..
     
    Redwing and oracle like this.
  15. truong

    truong Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    10th Jan, 2016
    Posts:
    276
    Location:
    Everywhere
    She should stop looking at share prices and look at dividends instead.

    How do you get her to do that? Every quarter as dividends hit the account like clockwork, buy her some flowers or take her out for dinner. Make it a joyous routine that brightens your relationship.
     
  16. virgo

    virgo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    441
    Location:
    Sydney
    I am surprised no one is asking what is the age of the OP ie at which stage of the retirement journey they are as it affects their stock/cash allocation? or am i missing something?
     
    mdk likes this.
  17. SatayKing

    SatayKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    10,781
    Location:
    Extended Sabatical
    Here ya go.

    So grateful to have found this
     
  18. virgo

    virgo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    22nd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    441
    Location:
    Sydney
    That explains...OP is in his 50s...and getting close to retirement...

    What i mean is it explains why the wifey can be understandbly nervous..if my wife is in her 20s ..i say Heck! lets get moving...over 30 ? 40 years? the market will take care of herself..

    .but in her 50s...she will probably be more assured if the hubby takes it upon himself to "educate" her about share/bond/cash/ property allocation..n'cest pas?
     
  19. Piston_Broke

    Piston_Broke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    4,140
    Location:
    Margaritaville
    That's mean... like something I'd post. But nah getting a newer model is no good. Get a maid, cooking is easy.

    The biggest reason is money. Either too much or not enough.
     
    Sackie and MTR like this.
  20. d3outguncom

    d3outguncom Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8th Mar, 2020
    Posts:
    465
    Location:
    Sydney
    @spoon New partner? That will distract her :)
     
    spoon likes this.