My first development

Discussion in 'Development' started by zac101, 19th Jan, 2017.

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  1. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    I thought about it in Highgate as I could go the extra storey and have a roof terrace but the cost price didn't even pay for the increase in value. Everyone "wants" a roof terrace but the reality is that no one usually wants to pay for it.
    For every dollar you spend on a house you want to see that returned with profit. So you'd want to see a $25k value increase for spending $20k on a roof terrace. At the end of the day I'd rather spend that $20k on an additional bedroom or living room which will generate money (via sale or equity valuation) than a roof terrace.
     
  2. zac101

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    umm not really spectacular view, but you can see Morley Galleria :) And the back yard is not small for a duplex, about 45 sqm including the alfresco.
    So yeah I kind of agree it is not a great idea :) thanks @Perthguy and @Westminster you have confirmed my suspicion, it is not worthwhile
     
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    Still worth getting a price though. Then decide from there.
     
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    Tufan Chakir Well-Known Member

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    Is the designer an architect or a drafter?
    There is an ethical problem with the kickback idea
    If an architect this should be reported to the Institute and Registration Board
    Sounds like it's a designer/drafter
     
  5. Bryn

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    if you do, why concrete? with a skillion colourbond roof, you can put a timber deck over the top (provided its designed for the load)- cheaper than concrete
     
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  6. Aaron Sice

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    God forbid you do any roof terrace out of anything other than concrete.

    Of course then you get to complain about it leaking all the time.

    Everyone wins! *

    *sarcasm intended.
     
  7. Bryn

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    Is this another perth thing? :)
     
  8. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    Yes we can't use anything but concrete or bricks. Anaphylactic shock sets in if we even touch timber.
     
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    To be honest his website does say he is a designer. But I am totally new to this, and I always thought a designer, architect, town planner are all the same thing. But seems like I need to do more research.
    By the sound of it, a designer can charge a commission but an architect can't? And to be fair I won't call it a kickback because he hasn't tried to hide it or anything.

    Yes, from my little research, it seems like a timber deck is high and regular maintenance. I prefer more of a set and forget kid of solution. So a concrete roof terrace would be virtually maintenance free, right?
     
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  10. Aaron Sice

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    About the same. You need to keep the drains clear and check grout joins every 6 months.
     
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    I think it's far easier than oiling the timber deck every six months.
     
  12. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    You could always timber or steel frame up and use a fibre cement low maintenance options
     
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    zac101 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Westminster , but I will need bit more :) any links or examples will greatly appreciated.
     
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    So it seems like the designer is recommending the front unit at the street level and the back unit at -1 meter. So the retaining at the back of the rear unit will be 300mm, but the retaining wall between the front and back lot will be one meter. And there will be a fall of about one meter over 25 meters of the driveway, i.e. about 4% slope.
    Not really sure if this is the best configuration.
     
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    The fall won't be an issue. The retaining cost might be, depends on the contour of your land. Just ask your designer why they've done it that way? To optimize cut and fill? To reduce overall retaining costs?
     
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    Spoke to the designer and it turns out the retaining wall at the back of the rear block is 500 mm already. And then there is one meter retaining wall at the boundary of back and front lot, which brings to the front block to street level.
    He says any more than 500mm retaining wall at the boundary means council will need comments from neighbours, hence delaying the DA.

    Is one meter fall from front to the back house gonna be easy on the eyes? The driveway is about 24.5 meters and one meter fall over this distance......would it look ok?
     
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    It will look fine. Just make sure you do a decent looking retaining wall for the driveway.

    OR if you change your mind, go side by side and build the houses with split levels.
     
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    Thanks @Phase2

    Hahaha, I am way past the point of no return. Maybe in my next venture, if there is one.
     
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    the WHOLE driveway over 25m slopes down a 4% grade? AS2890 is 5% so well inside tolerances there.

    because if it slopes locally you can't exceed 12.5% which is what....8m? Plus 2m ramping either side - 12m. Half the length required.

    Why not put the splits into the house and build some intrinsic difference into the house design, have something different - instead of paying money for limestone blocks and then burying them under the ground?
     
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    yeah, that's great.
    Ummm.....I am going for panel and post. Besides, not a fan of split level house, especially with young kids.