VIC Melbourne Market - thoughts for 2022-2024

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by sash, 18th Feb, 2022.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    15,663
    Location:
    Sydney
  2. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,852
    Location:
    My World
    Yes, location not ideal

    However, regardless this market is softening and agents have said the same.

    This is excellent location, sellers wanted $2M. Land value. Passed in at auction now $1.7-1.8m

    Sellers must adjust when markets change

    https://m.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-williamstown-138831575

    Agents telling me buyers have dropped off

    In fact someone offered $1.1m for Power Street, lol
     
    Dmash likes this.
  3. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    15,663
    Location:
    Sydney
    If that was in Sydney it would be north of 4-5m. Wow!

    Good buying... compared to Sydney or even Brissie....
     
  4. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,852
    Location:
    My World
    Even Brissie. Wow


    Williamstown a great spot, good lifestyle, close to city and water

    $ 2-2.2M will buy a decent period home on 350 sqm block. May be cheaper in late 2022/23
     
    Dmash likes this.
  5. ThisIsLiving

    ThisIsLiving Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    3rd Feb, 2021
    Posts:
    113
    Location:
    Melbourne
  6. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,852
    Location:
    My World

    Yes, same as Mornington, Frankston this corridor still strong


    problem is no one rings a bell when it peaks

    Tread carefully imo, ongoing interest rate increases will change market sentiment. Never buy at or close to peak, its a wealth destroyer
     
    Dmash and ThisIsLiving like this.
  7. Dmash

    Dmash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28th Dec, 2021
    Posts:
    1,092
    Location:
    Sydney/Melbourne
  8. Dmash

    Dmash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28th Dec, 2021
    Posts:
    1,092
    Location:
    Sydney/Melbourne
    Suburbs like Caroline Springs and Avondale heights will lag due to market participants and the fact that basically anyone can purchase a $1.3m based off current borrowing costs. You would only need household income if $150k to purchase that (assuming 20% deposit).
     
  9. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,852
    Location:
    My World

    Whats wrong with Williamstown
     
  10. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    15,663
    Location:
    Sydney
    Yeh...Brissie is crazy!!! The stuff I bought for 250-325 are now 2.5x to 3x what I bought it for.

    Melbourne seems like a bargain!
     
    MTR likes this.
  11. K168

    K168 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    14th Feb, 2021
    Posts:
    258
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Whens the timing for Melbourne? End 2022/Early 2023?
    Or wait all the way till mid 2023
     
  12. Silverson

    Silverson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11th Jun, 2016
    Posts:
    1,156
    Location:
    Melbourne
    @MTR 193 Mitchell st northcote under offer pre auction, at a guess over the 3.5m quote range.
    Little if any signs of slowing.
     
  13. K168

    K168 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    14th Feb, 2021
    Posts:
    258
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Could you help explain why Northcote so good. I understand it's gentrified, but you could afford Toorak/Hawthorn with that money so why wouldn't you?
     
    chunho01, Dmash and Silverson like this.
  14. Hamish84

    Hamish84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Sep, 2021
    Posts:
    678
    Location:
    Melbourne,Vic
    One example of a house selling before auction, without even knowing the sale price nor how much interest there was. You’re obviously oblivious to clearance rates, vendor discounting and all other indicators and anecdotal evidence to show it’s already ground to a halt.
     
  15. Hamish84

    Hamish84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Sep, 2021
    Posts:
    678
    Location:
    Melbourne,Vic
    Cashed up champagne socialists would never buy south of the Yarra
     
    Traveller99 likes this.
  16. Silverson

    Silverson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11th Jun, 2016
    Posts:
    1,156
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I personally feel it has a better activity centre feel to it.
    I live in Northcote and have ips and current development in suburb. It in my opinion was a better suburb 10 years ago for livability but this is not reflected in price. As for Hawthorn/Toorak, the price paid for a decent home in Northcote is entry level in the suburbs you mentioned. If I was to pay hawthorn/toorak prices I would tip in a little more and go straight to East Melbourne
    My opinion only
     
  17. Silverson

    Silverson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11th Jun, 2016
    Posts:
    1,156
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I personally have stated many a time that property purchases for me/family are done and it’s now time to focus on growing equity portfolio.
    With current sentiment and the way everyone is carrying on in regards to property I’ve decided to start hunting around again. From what I’ve noticed and the property types I’m after, prices remain relatively unchanged with vendors preferring to take off market and hold as opposed to discount to sell.
    Markets within markets. As a whole I side with you heat may have come off. As a specific product in a certain locale….crickets.
    That’s what I was referring to with quoted poster above
     
  18. Triton

    Triton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    481
    Location:
    Vic
    Renovated, ready to move in houses are selling well, the others are almost back to early 2021 prices
     
    Silverson and Harris like this.
  19. JL1

    JL1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Dec, 2016
    Posts:
    1,134
    Location:
    Australia
    My take on current Melb market is that the people buying are the people who want a PPOR now, buying long term livable, and hence dont care if prices may or not dip another 10% short term. For that reason, the houses selling at good prices are the well presented, unique, and highly livable.

    Houses requiring work are struggling in part because of renovation costs, but i think more-so because the types of people who buy fixer-uppers are typically looking to add quick value - hard to do when you risk losing 10% purely on market forces.

    I'm also seeing lots being withdrawn from market completely in recent months. It seems many sellers are holding out for brighter days... possibly literally, so I'm very interested to see how Spring listings go over coming weeks/months. I've no doubt this season will have more listings than historical. Rates will be 0.5-1% higher and some forecasts beyond that, so I am uncertain if buyers are ready to jump in just yet. Suspect the balance will remain in favour of buyers into 2023.
     
    bamp, Hamish84, Triton and 1 other person like this.
  20. Triton

    Triton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    481
    Location:
    Vic

Build Passive Income WITHOUT Dropping $15K On Buyers Agents Each Time! Helping People Achieve PASSIVE INCOME Using Our Unique Data-Driven System, So You Can Confidently Buy Top 5% Growth & Cashflow Property, Anywhere In Australia