Media Bias and Accuracy

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  1. MTR

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    Yes, but it cuts both ways as Wylie mentioned
     
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    right

    I think everyone would get a F for fail on property chat. It is a forum after all
     
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    Maybe academics tend to be left wing

    is this link ok

    Why Most Academics Tilt Left | Brian Balfour
     
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    There is a reason for this
     
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    Re the Daily Mail's commitment to accuracy, one from my website: "A current story [March 2011] on the Daily Mail website Japanese earthquake and tsunami: 175k tonne ship dumped on Kamaishi habour | Daily Mail Online is headed The 175,000-tonne ship lifted up and dumped on the harbour-side like a bit of driftwood by Japanese tsunami. If you know anything about ships (I know just a little) you'd know that modern large cruise ships are typically 70-90,000 tons - the mega-liner Queen Mary 2 is 151,400 tons. So if the headline was true, this would be one enormous ship; it isn't. A few seconds on Google revealed the actual size of this ship, Asia Symphony, is 6,175 tons! Someone should have spotted this before the story was published."

    At the time I posted a comment pointing out the error and it was knocked back by a moderator*, though a couple of similar comments did make it through. They're obviously not read by the journos: nine years layer the story is still there, uncorrected. What's even more worrying is that unarguably false comments will often attract masses of upticks if they say what people want to believe, even if they are false and vice versa. If a story generates clicks and thus ad revenue, that's all that matters.

    *When on the DM site you read 'the comments below have not been moderated', it's sort of true; it's just that the ones you're not able to read have been.
     
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    The Guardian is as one eyed as Fox news any day
     
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    And the ‘centre’ changes as society changes - and sometimes in a good way.

    Not too long ago the thought of aboriginal Australians having the vote was really ‘out there extremist radical left wing’.
     
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    They have higher factual reporting, and are regarded as left centre (not as far left as Fox News is right).
    Screenshot_2020-05-11-21-39-39-71.jpg

    The Guardian - Media Bias/Fact Check
     
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    Rather ironic.
     
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    Highly selective in terms of what is reported, factual in what they do report is how I would categorise The Guardian. I don't mind reading some of their content even if I don't necessarily agree with some of the conclusions reached.
     
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    I can see this is going to work well...... lol

    now we will have to google to verify this...

    Make it my opinion, same as what you did
     
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    It certainly is considering what I have read on PC

    whats amusing is this thread is going to probably reveal how much rubbish is printed which is fake news
     
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    I wonder if fake news is real? The epistemological and ontological implications are fascinating.

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    CNN is a little biased but it is uptodate. I cycle my news so my biases are at least dynamic: CNN, BBC, WSJ, NYtimes, the Australian, SMH , abc. NYT had a broad policy on publishing letters to the editor.

    The comments on articles are also interesting. Many of the SMH ones are written by someone in an office building in Beijing on one hand. On the other hand, the pay for papers, have a lot of very insightful comments and varied views - aka NYTimes.
     
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    Sorry for the delay. Monday night is my ABC (a credible media organisation) night.

    Totally enjoyed watching Four Corners. I trust you all saw it.
     
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    Depends - ABC in the USA or Australia? :D

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    Sigh - another opinion piece

    I prefer the analogy of "Follow the evidence wherever it leads, and question everything." - Neil deGrasse Tyson

    ... or even ...

    "This institution will be based on the illimitable freedom of the human mind. for here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson

    Follow the science and question everything - even if it makes one uncomfortable and results in one changing their minds when faced with new evidence. Opinion pieces, suppositions, accusations, declarations, inconclusive/incomplete trials and theories are not evidence.
     
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    Sounds like a perfect world..... just follow the evidence, science...... if it were that simple there would be no debates about anything

    and of course academics dont agree on everything, and they dont all have same point of view.
     
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