Marriage equality survey results will be released 15th Nov

It should "come out" at about 10am.
I was reading on the CBA intranet.
What is concerning though:

The Australian Bureau of Statistics will also release the electorate results of the survey, which will give Australians a clear indication of the overall result in each area of the country.

We encourage you to take the time to understand not only the national results but those within your own electorate or community. You can stay up to date on the details at https://marriagesurvey.abs.gov.au.

Now I can see that this could absolutely be distressing for many individuals....

I'd rather the individual electorate results not be released, only the highly "yes" voting areas should be mentioned perhaps.

Thoughts?

 

Only the overall result is relevant IMO, not the individual area results. Can you elaborate on why it would be distressing though?

 

I think it is a good idea to publish electorate result, although this is predictable as well. High socio-economic area will generally vote yes. I'm interested to know how much this info will affect house price though.

 

100+mil for a survey is absolutely ludicrous. Colossal waste of money. That's all I know.

 

I'm over it. Yes or no, eventually gay marriage will be legalised, it's only a question of how and the current government has shown an utter lack of leadership in how they've handled this.

Same with dual citizenship. Does anyone think that it has made any difference to the decisions our politicians have made their decisions? Has it made a difference to them being a security risk? For better or worse?

They could have simply realised the mistake, taken steps to fix it an moved on. Instead it's been used for political point scoring. Probably cost millions in High Court decisions, definitely cost millions in the governments inability to function, swabbing and emergency elections.

In the meantime nothing useful is being done. A significant part of this years government time has been a complete waste.

 

Myself I hope they do post the results-After all the money spent this time I hope it is sorted and let people live the life they want .. Then this government with the feeling of deja-vu can do what the Australian voting public want them to do.

 

Couldn't agree more @Peter_Tersteeg & @Leo2413

I can only think about how $100M+ could be better spent.

Along with the salaries of all the government officials who have done nothing, except come up with an idea to waste $100M+ that's not even binding.

 

Between the Citizenship debacle and Marriage equality debate - what a wasted year!

 

I wish we could have just done the right thing and legislated this long ago, so we could move on to the next thing the religious right have been trying to block for years: Euthanasia.

 

I am distressed by the fact that the Gov spent all these money on a non-binding “vote”. Together with the citizenship debacle, we’ll be the laughing stock of other nations.

 

A month or two ago I would have said the "yes" campaign would win in a landslide but the more and more I have open and honest conversations with people the closer I feel the result will be.

There are a lot of people that genuinely have concerns with the yes vote campaign tactics and the stigma attached to those that want to vote no... with no prejudice or ill feeling towards the LGBTI community.

Agree with everyone's comments that it was a big waste of money and energy.

 

Would the answer be any different if we were to go to war against one of these countries?

If they had dual citizenship, there's a likelihood that they would be arrested and made to undertake military service (in some countries - as happened to a neighbour).

 

I agree with your reasoning, certainly sitting members of parliament should only hold Australian citizenship. Security is a major reason for this.

That said, at this point in time, do any of the people who have resigned represent a security threat as a result of their dual citizenship? Most of them had no idea that they were dual citizens. We already have other checks and balances in place around national security such as secret level clearances.

Security clearances on politicians is an ongoing thing. It would be very easy to quickly identify those at risk and solve the problem. In most cases simply completing the paperwork to renounce the conflict of interest would be sufficient. Treat this in a reasonable manner, it doesn't need to be a circus.

 

All the recent noise on SSM, citizenship blah blah, yet another distraction from actually running the country and doing what is needed. Less blathering and bickering more governing. No wonder people dislike politicians, solutions are far down the list compared to arguing and laying blame.

 

Really, really sad @wylie

The pollies should have not had it as a postal vote... so much pain caused and money wasted....... Parliament should have dealt with it.

 

IMO, the high court has taken its decision and its now a done deal. There is no point trying to be a better judge.

Let us assume for a while that you are right and their dual citizenship has not made any practical difference in the decision making process so far, now what if a sitting parliamentarian happen to have a parent from a non-commonwealth country? I heard a discussion on radio the other day about it and a participant was of the opinion that high court got it wrong because the other nationality of the parliamentarians was from a commonwealth country and they don't pose a threat to Australia so it wasn't a big deal. Come on mate! Do you want to apply the law selectively?

Why not? Let everyone know what are the low socio-economic / hardliner areas. Good for property investment as well.

 

So, if you are in a same sex relationship or in the LGBTI community and happen to live in a place were the majority are not supportive of SSM... That could cause so much mental anguish. Not everybody can pick up and move elsewhere easily.... for example, young teenagers, people whose work is in a certain location.... knowing that most people around you are not supportive of the lifestyle you lead... It could drive people to depression, self harm or suicide.