Loss on building demolished/destroyed by fire

Discussion in 'Accounting & Tax' started by Beano, 1st Oct, 2018.

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  1. Beano

    Beano Well-Known Member

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    Can you claim the balance of the NBV if a building demolished or destroyed by fire (Net of insurance proceeds) ?
    The building will NOT be rebuilt but sold as a section
     
  2. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    What does "sold as a section" mean ?
    What does NBV mean ?

    You do want to get tax advice since a number of tax issues occur if a building is destroyed.
    - The insurance proceeds are assessable and do not produce a capital gain (since the building isnt a CGT asset)....However see below for the 2 year CGT concession for replacement assets.
    - If the property was producing income at the time of the loss any residual assets shown on a QS report may be written off. Without a QS report (or existing known costs) you will encountered difficulty determining what you lost in terms of dollar value. Perhaps even $0. Its a major reason why I always recommend a QS report (if possible). Any $0 proceeds for scrap value etc may reduce the write off too.
    - Any residual P&E may be written off too
    - There is a 2 year CGT rollover period that needs to be understood. It can reduce the tax impacts IF you rebuild but 2 years is a short time in many cases.
    - Sale of the property now may avoid GST. The longer you hold the land the more problematic it can be to argue its not subject to GST when sold.
     
  3. Beano

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    What is P&E?
    There was a QS report done on purchase and every addition was added to the asset register
    NBV is the Net Book Value
    The insurance allows a fix sum which in the event of total fire loss would first be applied to clear the site.
    Any proceeds (if any) after clearing the site may or may not be applied to a rebuild.
    Commercial property that has been leased it's entire life
     
  4. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    @Beano - IIRC your properties are subject to ground leases ie you don't own the building, is this the case here as well? If you don't own the building, then you're subject to the tenant's insurance policy T&C. Is their policy current & does it cover demolition. So they have an obligation to rebuild or does it trigger a termination event?

    (p&e - plant & equipment)
     
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  5. Marg4000

    Marg4000 Well-Known Member

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    Where is the property?

    You refer to the “section” which is an NZ term.
    Marg