ETF Long Term ongoing ETFs ideas

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  1. Ruby Tuesday

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    Yeh must be getting old, Super Hero being nominee mean they are not the owner. The entity that owns them is the name on the account. The shares are held by CHESS, the ASX and you have a HIN giving you title in your name, the bank account is in your name, the purpose of CHESS is to register and secure your tittle to the shares. If Super Hero goes broke you can use another broker to sell your shares. What Super Hero does is use technology that wasnt available 20 years ago to Amalgate buy order's and then sort and place them into the appropriate accounts by the end of the day (even more reason to buy in small tranches if you are so paraniod) Opes prime was a managed Fund totally different,MF global was a derivatives and commodities broker offering risky and totally different services using totally different technology. I guess you wouldnt buy a house either as that would be more risky as the deposit is held in the name of real estate agents.
     
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    Preferable never to quote the gibberish as it makes threads very confusing for those that have "ignore" configured. Just saying.
     
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    Good job @PT18
    The main thing is to get started, keep your savings rate up, keep reading/thinking/learning, and adjust slowly and with purpose and understanding as you go. You're already ahead of the vast majority.
     
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    am absolutely on board with the 'reading and thinking and learning ' advice ( there is heaps i haven't read yet )
     
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    Preferable never to quote the gibberish as it makes threads very confusing for those that have "ignore" configured. Just saying.

    Did you post something? ;)
     
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    Isn’t this just what custodians of shares have done for decades?

    for example if you buy your equities via Vanguard Personal Investor or a super fund such as HostPlus ChoicePlus
     
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    Anyone comments on this? Thoughts

    VDHG
     
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    Chris, what about the CBA commsec platform?
     
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    i have an aversion to 'fund of funds ' in general ( especially if bonds are involved )

    a quick peek at the basics of VDHG , raises the question of 90% aimed at 'high risk/high growth , and then you need to factor in investment size trying to 'right-size the entry points

    what i can do with my '$1000 dabbles' is so much harder if you are trying to park say $500,000 at a time

    the low recent franking hints at international ( or REIT ) exposure

    i think i would prefer a fund ( or LIC) that just focused on small caps and keep the holding at sensible levels ( buying levels that is if the fund , say, triples in $value .. THAT is a different decision ( to let it run or reduce )

    cheers
     
  10. JS-C0nfus3d18

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    Wow, at no point in time, I had thought this would turn out to be such a lengthy discussion, but so glad to see things from various angles. Appreciate everyone's input. Every message in this thread has helped me understand the long term strategy.

    As it stands now, and after thoroghly going through the article that @Hockey Monkey pointed out, I am reducing the number of ETFs I would invest even further and also as suggested by @mtat , will keep things simple for following reasons:

    In brief-

    - As per the article suggested by @Hockey Monkey , good to limit exposure to AUD to 50-65% of total portfolio.
    - Considering that I already have an Investment and home, already have good exposure to AUD and hence should look at investing in non-AUD assets.
    - The article also suggests to limit investments to AUS equities to less than 30% or so.

    So based on all these, I think below looks like a well balanced allocation which is all unhedged and also limits AUS equities exposure to 25%, while also increases allocation to unhedged global equities.

    VAS - 25%
    VAE - 40%
    VGS - 35%

    Bringing it down to just 3 ETFs will also help lower the cost of brokerage.

    Spot on from @mtat and @Hockey Monkey as they had previously suggested this combination. Going through all these posts increased the reasoning behind those suggestions which lot of novice investors like me will benefit from.

    Thank you very much again for all your inputs.
     
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    It would be absolutely fine for a person who wants simply to invest their funds, accept what the market provides and get on with other things. It may have variable income but the product covers many things including Australia and International markets with a smattering of hedging.

    Here is the Vanguard link if you haven't already seen it. Poke around the site and see if it is a product with which you feel comfortable.

    Investment products | Vanguard Australia Personal Investor

    It may be best to ignore some negative drivel which has been posted about it.
     
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    Glad you are finding the discussion useful in your investing journey.

    Please be aware that 40% VAE is a massive bet on Asia emerging markets at around 3-4x their global market cap.

    Suggest limiting such a bet to 10-15%
     
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    to me , Asia ( including India/Pakistan , but excluding Japan ) is the place to bet ,but i agree 40% seems a bit aggressive

    but if not Asia , where does the extra xx% go

    placing that extra cash is a tough one
     
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    Not questioning your allocation. Just to prompt a question on how much conviction do you have so if one sector did not do well for a few years and you would still keep the allocations?
     
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    @Lone_Wolf if your question is: does CommSec have chess sponsorship, then the answer is yes.
     
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    Yes, there was way too much of this on the now defunct 'investchat' site,making investing sound very complicated,too involved & too hard. Okay for some I guess.
    Best thing I got from that site was a link to this site.... a breath of fresh air with lots of good, sound advice for a simple & successful approach to long term investing.
     
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    A passive investor doesn't try to place bets on companies, sectors or countries and instead buys the entire market at cap weight.

    How to get worldwide index exposure on the ASX — Passive Investing Australia

    If you want to throw in a little more risk/return we have approaches like factors and leverage.
     
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