Long Leases Woolworths

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  1. Beano

    Beano Well-Known Member

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    I am looking a small Woolworths supermarket (3,300m2) that has a good long lease 25 years
    Has anyone had any problems with these types of properties and dealings with Woolworths ?
    Its has a net rental of $1.3m likely yield around 6pc
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    If financing is involved the lease needs to fit with lender requirements. A good commercial broker helps. Lenders go hot / cold with various property types and locations. Woolworths did have a process of flicking property leases to the new property trust (SCA)...Why not this one ?
     
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    Not tied to a shopping centre development?
     
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    Not certain
    I am waiting for the IM
    I like the long lease
     
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    It might be a long lease but could be short on favourable clauses (who is the vendor)?
     
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    Yea looked at one recently - different scenario, it was actually on a short lease. Problem with Woolworths leases is they're often tied to revenue. Your $1.3m is probably not a fixed figure. So you'd have to take a view on that.

    I was looking at the short lease site because I wanted a development site. Not sure on being stuck there and getting 5-6% yield (assuming your rent fluctuates with Woolworths revenue).
     
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    How do you think woolworths will go in the future with aldi and others coming in?Their business is based on high outgoings,expenses and turnover
     
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    Their occupancy costs are generally quite low - Blue chip tenant, ASX listed, Anchor tenant in subregional/neighbourhood centres (also a developer in neighbourhood centres). They 'sell' shelf space to their suppliers further reducing their own occupancy costs.
     
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    I like the Aldi model. They buy a site and develop it to a larger use than a single store and sell it all. Then lease back their own site. The basic strategy results in a site that adds cashflow upfront from profit and sale.

    Woolworths sale of its properties to SCP etc hit a issue when they realised the complexity with improving a site. They have exchanged ownership of sites with cashflows from property sales and meant they are now burning their way through what was once equity.

    Ansett used to own a substantial terminal and hanger presence in Australia. Whats that worth ?
     
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