Living Expenses

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  1. HomePage

    HomePage Well-Known Member

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    For 2015, my wife and I spent $1700 per month on essential living expenses (transport, amenities, rates, house maintenance, car/house insurance, medical/dental, no mortgage). We spent $750 per month on discretionary spending, $1K a month on holidays, $500 a month upgrading the house and $250 a month helping others. The grand total monthly spend was $4200,or just over $50K for the year, to live (IMO) very comfortably.
     
  2. ashish1137

    ashish1137 Well-Known Member

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    I am still an India based employee. A permanent resident has to take a mandatory insurance for which i opted a basic corporate plan at 170 aud per month.

    Then i have a travel insurance which costs me 30 aud per person per month. Comes to 90 aud per month. The advantage is everything except cosmetic treatment is covered. Dental, physiotherapy, podiatry, eye checkup, glasses etc. Etc.

    Then my mom stays with us for nearly 8 months in a year and i had to take a permanent insurance for her as well which is 90 aud. :(
     
  3. dabbler

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    Nowhere near that amount for us, we could literally go on a cruise a month and still pay everything from that amount.

    Food would be the most.
     
  4. Vanillascent

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    I'm a budget nerd. This is my budget which is ~ $3300/mth - it's just me and 2 fur kids (cats). Does not allow for general spending money/gifts etc. I've got a very detailed spreadsheet I use so I know when my big expenses are and I allocate all my expenses over the year - hence knowing my expenses down to the cent. If only I spent as much time sticking to my budget as I do designing it :p

    Interest: $1400.50/mth
    Principal: $552.11/mth
    Groceries: $303/mth
    Private Health: $166.08/mth
    Petrol: $130/mth
    Mobile: $94.99/mth
    Rates: $94.25/mth
    Home Insurance: $92.08/mth
    Internet: $90/mth
    Water: $86.67/mth
    Gas: $56.33/mth
    Car Service: $55.92/mth
    Car Rego: $55.84/mth
    Gym: $42.14/mth
    Car insurance: $34.67/mth
    Electricity: $34.67/mth
    RACQ: $7.17/mth
     
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    I'd be around $7-8k a month as I sure I have left stuff out of my list. I have never budgeted personal expenses in my life. Never be able to stick to it. With 2 kids (another on the way) a dog a pregnant wife etc always something unexpected to pay.

    A lot of these expenses are wholly it in part run through my Pty Ltd.

    $2700 rent
    $220 health ins
    $200 car ins's
    $1100 two car reps
    $1500 groceries
    $600 take away /dining
    $500 child care
    $100 primary school
    $50 donations
    $200 fuel
    $200 utilities
    $200 mobile phone bills
     
  6. Ace in the Hole

    Ace in the Hole Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely no idea, never worked it out.
    For a couple with one child in primary school, I'd guess we'd be close to 20k all up.
    That includes monthly PPOR loan payments.
     
  7. Sackie

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    20k a month??
     
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  8. Darlinghurst Boy

    Darlinghurst Boy Well-Known Member

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    Electrcity $34 a month !!!! Very cheap ?
    Grocery 303 a month ?
    Do you write a " actual" column and a " budget" column ?
     
  9. TonyE

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    Living expenses for me and partner excluding IPs repayments.

    Food $400 per month
    Alcohol $200 per month
    Holidays $5k-$10k per annum

    Work covers the rest.
    Live and work in Aboriginal Communities.
     
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    bob shovel Well-Known Member

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    What work do you? Are you based in each community or travel around?
    Looking at doing similar later this year
     
  11. TonyE

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    Supermarket Manager, was on the relief team last 4 yrs flying around relieving Managers whilst they take their holidays (7weeks a yr) Have just decided to settle down in our own store close to a Mining town for luxuries.
    What line of work you considering?
     
  12. Tifoso

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    I honestly never think about it. I know guys at work who do budget vs actual analysis of their weekly cash flow which I respect, but I couldn't be arsed tracking how much I spend on coffee etc a week.

    It's not that we have that much disposable income, its just that my primary focus is on business/investment income and expenditure, because I know that is what will cause me issues if I can't control cash flow to meet outgoings. Compared to that, our own living expenses are rats and mice.

    If the business/investment cash flow falls into place, then I don't have to worry about the other stuff. I have an entry on my monthly cash flow for 5k for personal expenses, which probably contains a 15-20% buffer over actual.

    I'm gonna have a look now and see if my cash flow needs updating :D
     
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    Damn, I feel really bad reading this thread as I am hitting close to $12k to 13k a month.:(
    We have a family of 4 ( 2 adults + 2 kids + a dog).

    Mortgages $2,900.00 (home only exclude IPs)
    Travel $2,587.25
    Child/Dependent Expenses $1,735.00
    Home Maintenance $1,710.10
    Utilities $1,080.71
    ATM/Cash Withdrawals $880.00
    Healthcare/Medical $690.88
    Groceries $525.37
    Restaurants/Dining $372.95
    Home Improvement $121.63
    Clothing/Shoes $92.82
    Other Categories $232.43
    Total $12,929.14

    I use Anzmoneymanager and its fantastic as it auto-connects to your bank acc and categories every single transaction and keeps a record of it for as long as you want. Most banks only hold 3 months of data these days.

    This is terrible...
     
  14. EN710

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    Some of your items are extremely low and the other are very high?
     
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  15. Ace in the Hole

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    PPOR loan repayments is over 10k.
    Counting all other costs like occasional holidays, training fees for us and child, buying something once in a while, money is easy to spend.
     
  16. Azazel

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    Hehe, I remember doing that before.
    Or magazines, just for the one article.
    I even get a magazine delivered now, fancy!
     
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    ok....I feel much better now!
     
  18. Ace in the Hole

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    Why is it terrible?
    Unless you are spending more than you can afford and can't control it.
    I think Bran's spending budget is awesome, something to work up to.
     
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  19. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Hi @dboy_tomato

    I'm really interested to hear more about some of your items, if you are interested in sharing?

    Seems like a lot for just public transport... does this figure include the cost of running a car, or flights or other ?

    I'm interested to know whether you are fire-fighting maintenance issues, or actually renovating? $1700 a month is a lot of fire-fighting. Maybe you have a cleaner and a gardener that is contributing to this expense?

    This is quite a bit... is it just Electricity+Water+Gas or does it include Phone+Internet?

    Could be double-counting? If this money was spent on say dining out, it could already have been counted under another category?
     
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    4K a month 2 adults excluding mortgage repayments and we live very comfortably. To put it in perspective an aged couple on the pension receive 2.4k a month. We could easily tighten our expenses though because a lot of it is just disposable income spending. E.g. We usually eat out at a restaurant at least once a week. We also go out drinking on the weekends with friends. That is easily 1k a month we could easily save. Even if we reduced it to once a fortnight that’s still a $500 saving per month.