Liberal or Labour?

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Liberal or Labour? If you are already a property investor.

Poll closed 20th May, 2019.
  1. Liberal

    112 vote(s)
    72.3%
  2. Labour

    43 vote(s)
    27.7%
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  1. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

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    Moral of the story dont touch our trusts, negative gearing, SMSF etc etc
     
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    Found this comment amusing:

    “Labor used to be party for the workers, now it’s a party for people who don’t work,” one said.
     
  3. Blueskies

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    Keep the faith @TSK Could actually be a good outcome overall. Real chance of a minority government with some strong pro-climate change cross bench.

    Not taking the pi$$, I am quite serious, I do back the economic philosophy of the Libs but it would be great to have them held to account to take action on climate change.
     
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    I think a big problem with the poles is that they don't ask about preference flows. With swinging voters and minor party votes so high nowadays, just asking about primary votes and assuming that preferences will be allocated in line with the last election is a fatal flaw.
     
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    Love it........ it did not work, people who pay their taxes have voted
     
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  6. TSK

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    See that's the problem - if you analyze the, minority government, Coalition - the policies are short term and not thought out and then cost billions later, if you did that in business you would fail but for some reason they are celebrated.

    QLD and WA are mining states - one off resources - once they are gone they will be basket cases (WA was one before they boom in 90s and 00s).

    We vote in the government we deserve ....
     
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    Thank god in this instance
     
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    This from John Howard. I think what he says might be close to the mark:

    “And I did believe very strongly that Bill Shorten had overplayed his hand on the class warfare stuff. Australians believe in egalitarianism. They reject the politics of class division.

    "And all this stuff about the big end of town and the envy-driven politics of the Labor Party have done them in big time in many areas."
     
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    And thus is the bottom of the property market decline. I’ll allow a month or two for the dust to settle and then we should finally see the end of the falling prices now the uncertainty of labors ridiculous policies are no more.
     
  10. TSK

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    I really don't think it's that (have you noticed that it's always Liberals that talk about class warfare - it's a rally cry for the right even when the coalition is stomping on wages of working class) - this election was won in QLD - mostly in the North on the back of PUP and One nation preference deals. This was Labors 1993 election - policies don't trump rhetoric.
     
  11. Tattler

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    I think Bill Shorten's likeability is also a factor here. Scott Morrison is more liked then Bill Shorten.

    I thought Labor made a mistake 6 years ago when the Caucus picked Shorten over Albanese, which the member picked. Albanese would have been a very popular leader.
     
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  12. MTR

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    Agree with this
     
  13. TSK

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    Yeah, ***** me no end how many Australians think it's a presidential race or beauty pageant.
     
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    I expect that assuming Labor lost the election, Anthony Albanese would be the leader. I would seriously consider voting for him and I have been voting Liberal for the last 8 years (and Labor before that).
     
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    The problem with Bill Shorten was that he was the architect of stabbing of Rudd and Gillard. He just seems to be the guy who cannot be trusted, and I voted Labour all the way up to Rudd/Gillard era ......
     
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    Please dont. Albo is more likeable but make no mistake, he is from the Socialist Left faction and is as close to communism as a major party in the West gets.
     
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    Anyone would be better than Shorten..... seriously
     
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    An you think Scott Morrison has clean hands. Seriously, if people applied the same vicious bats out for ALP that they did for LNP, tonight would be a different story. They didn't because they are apologists and when it came down to good government or hip pocket....well we know which one won
     
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    I would expect that the Labor Caucus will drag Albo into the middle rather than just go extreme left. That is how party works ...... Albo won't win with extreme left and he knows it.
     
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    No Scott may not have cleanest hands but the perception is that Abbott was the architect of Turnbull downfall, and Turnbull was the architect of Abbott downfall. So perception is that Scott is fairly clean.
     
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