Liberal leadership challenge?

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  1. Tattler

    Tattler Well-Known Member

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    But hang on, didn't Turnbull knifed TA earlier to get his Prime Ministership? It is easy to say TA should not be vengeful but TA won the election from Labor, and then got stabbed whilst in government .... Unfortunately when someone got stabbed whilst in government I understand why they are p*ssed mightily as they did the hardwork at the first place. This applies to KRudd as well.
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    It's one thing to be upset about being put down. It's another thing to continually undermine the person who is your new boss. Rudd and Abbott are as bad as each other. At least Malcolm is getting out of the way.
     
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    Serious question, what did Abbott do to undermine Malcolm Turnbull? was he leaking things to the media or was it just trash talking
     
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    That was polling on Thursday, before the leadership change. The other polls were done after the spill.
     
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    But good in a way in that six months down the line Scomo can point out what a terrible situation he inherited and now it's so much better (he hopes). Bit like when you get appointed CEO you go through the books ruthlessly applying writedowns to make your future results look so much better.
     
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    But do you reward really bad behavior , by just giving them their jobs back.
    And then what is going to stop it happening again if Scott Morrison gets an approval just below 50.
    Will he then get replaced again.
    The LNP are going to get hammered in the leadup to the next election, as did Labour in 2013.
     
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    Constantly trash talking to every media outlet that would listen - and, sadly, a lot of voters listen to the like of Hadley and Jones - not idea regarding the leaks - and his fingerprints are all over the back bench **** stirrers.

    Bit rich for TA to now go on radio and declare "it's time to stop the back stabbing" - when he was the one handing Dutton the knife

    Tony Abbott holds out on Scott Morrison's special envoy offer

    The media now has to remove the oxygen from Abbott - but can't see it happening
     
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    I think Tony Abbott was a little more than upset when he was unseated from the Prime Ministership! He seemed to make it a personal vendetta; and focused primarily on Turnbull.
    Every dog has his day! Turnbull was more than a little naive to think that Abbott was going to take being brushed aside lying down.
     
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    It probably started from when Abbott beat Turnbull in 2009, and probably Turnbull was doing the plotting. Though it was kept under wraps much better.
     
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    Malcolm is using the excuse of 30 bad polls to knife TA, and then Malcolm kept going on after having his 31st bad poll early this year. That is always his problem, whatever standard he applies to others, he didn't apply to himself. No wonder the Liberal right scream louder and louder. Not saying that it is the right thing to do but it gives the Right a real reason to kick Malcolm off.
     
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    My comment wasn't directed at you.

    As for the others, it's a bit rich to say Turnbull should not have been rolled when he only got to be PM by rolling a first term PM. Turnbull was never a good fit with the Liberal party. The Turnbull experiment is over. It was an utter failure IMO. Turnbull polled well with Labor voters.
     
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    I didn't take it as such. My response was intended to be addressed to the thread in general.

    I think that the Labor leaning people he originally polled well with would have been completely disillusioned by the end. He tried to appease the right while appealing to the moderates and in the end pleased nobody. Good luck to Morrison.

    It's just been confirmed that Turnbull will resign from parliament this week.
     
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    That will trigger another byelection, and if they lose the seat its big trouble . Hung parliament.

    The whole thing is just a **** sandwich

    Morrison should call an election so we can get some clear air one way or the other.

    Abbott needs to be gone completely - like gone gone.... lose his seat. Or at the very least, jog on over and join Bernardi's mob . Same for the likes of Abetz , Dutton , Andrews , Sukkar .... they all need to jog on.

    If ever there was an argument for term limits on MP's in order to reduce factionalism... the last several years of Australian politics is it.
     
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    lol...I think he came out today for a sort of press conference to advise that the wrecking and changing of PMs stops now....

    priceless
     
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    He needed to be gone long ago, but def after being rolled....

    If he holds his seat now, you would have to wonder what sort of rose glasses everyone has :)
     
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    lol

    5 hrs homework for you each day till you know the answer !
     
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    Turnbull fell into the same trap that Gillard and others fall into, however Turnbull knew it was being broadcast everywhere and repeated often, he set himself up from the get go to br brought undone by the same measure......and of course, the journalists were asking when he would go when he lost more polls than the red line of 30 he set for Abbot.

    Will they ever learn ? Nope, cause a few years down the track is too long for them to think of apart from the self serving of trying to secure any next election.
     
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    Saw Tony on the news tonight , maybe filmed while appearing on a radio talk back ,grinning like a Cheshire cat and very happy with himself, even mentioned that he's not going anywhere wrt politics..
    But as was also mentioned tonght Malcolm Turnbull and Julie Bishop were two of their best fundraisers and brought in lots of money required for elections.
    Maybe they could hit the energy companies and banks for some donations
     
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    He does not like to miss an op with the media it would seem.....
     
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