Kitchen renovation advice needed

Discussion in 'Renovation & Home Improvement' started by robbie_p, 21st Jul, 2015.

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  1. neK

    neK Well-Known Member

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    @robbie_p not quite what I meant. I meant make the cavity itself deeper. This way the fridge can be pushed further in - getting it as flush as possible with the cabinet doors. Increasing the nib wall will still result in fridge sticking out more than the cabinetry.

    I'll see if i can dig up a picture of one of my plans.

    I made my fridge space 850mm deep vs the usual 600mm. This allowed me to push those deeper fridges further in and still have it appear flush with the cabinetry.

    However that depends on what what you have on the other side of the wall.
     

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    I would always go for gas for cooking, but it's personal preference I guess.
     
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    I prefer gas too of you have it
    Also look for a bigger cooktop you can get bigger (750+ I'll need to check) cooktops that will fit in a 600 cabinet, they are smaller underneath which means you can fit in more burners without taking up extra space - depending on your cabinet sizes
     
  4. robbie_p

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    Thanks guys!

    Well the builder came around on Friday to give me an idea of the additional costs, but so far the break down is as follows:

    Custom kitchen: $7200 (installed)
    Wall removal, Additional beam in ceiling, patch work etc : $3500
    Electrician, plumber, making nib wall 10cm longer: $2500

    I'm probably look at around $15k, including appliances.

    That seem about right for a kitchen reno?
     
  5. Propertunity

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    That seems about full retail price for a kitchen reno.
     
  6. robbie_p

    robbie_p Well-Known Member

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    So from the above breakdown of costs, where could savings be made?
     
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    Shave costs off all items = back to below $10K totally
     
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    robbie_p Well-Known Member

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    Even the wall removal and beam in ceiling?
     
  9. Azazel

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    You could definitely get a cheaper kitchen if you wanted to.
     
  10. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Plumber and electrician fees aren't really negotiable. I'd be looking at the cabinetry fees (they seem high) and put in the hard yards and find appliances for a lower price. Note that the cabinetmakers will need the model number and dimensions of the appliances before they start.
     
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    Are thought maybe the builder is adding a fee as he is charging about $2500 for the electrician and plumber, as well as a few other little things (extending a nib wall)
     
  12. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Possibly....
     
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    robbie_p Well-Known Member

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    With regards to the kitchen.. the options i had were gloss 2 pack or melamine doors.

    Is gloss 2 pack worth it?
     
  14. neK

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    2 pack. Melamine looks like rubbish.
     
  15. bob shovel

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    Ikea kitchen 2k.
    Have you factored in appliances?
    Do as much demo as you can
     
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    With regards to cutting down costs, there is no chance of getting away with a decent custom fitted kitchen for under $8000. I have had 3 quotes from carpenters and they have all been around $8000 (installed, without appliances or tiling/electrical/plumbing).

    With this in mind, if i can get an ikea kitchen for 2-3k, thats a $5-6k saving - with would leave me some cash to tile the house after i have ripped up the slate :)

    I am fairly confident with putting up shelving and cupboards etc, but my only worry was getting "fixed" sized items fitting into areas that didnt match up exactly and benchtops needing to be cut (if you refer to attached design)
     

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    Dont you think possible to get an ikea kitchen for as little as 2k?
     
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    Yep.got a bigger one for 2500.plus I got a refund for a few $hundred at the end.

    Get on the Ikea website and have a play. What's the measurements? Don't be scared of fixed sized cupboards have a play with different combinations then if to have gaps there are tricks around that
     
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    I have had a look at Ikea as well as u install it kitchens, and for something with the size of mine (benchtops, kitchen and cupboards) I think I would be looking at atleast $5000-6000 for a 2 pack (or equivilant), so might be worthwhile paying a $1-2 extra to get it custom made and installed?

    Attached are estimates of my kitchen size (supplied by my wife, so might be slightly off :)).
     

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    Hi All,

    I am about to lock in this kitchen renovation job.. I have had a look at a few standard kitchens and cupboards and to get something in 2 pac i would be looking at atleast 5-6k. With that in mind i decided to go with a custom fitted kitchen, fully installed (exc appliances) for $7500.

    The breakdown of costs is as follows:

    Kitchen / cupboards (installed) - $7,500
    Wall removal / new beam / patch-up - $3,300
    Extension of nib wall by fridge - $500
    Plumbing / Electrical (using my tradesman) - $1000
    Appliances - $1000

    Total: $13,300

    The builder quoted me about $2,200 - $2,700 for electrical / plumbing, which i thought was a bit expensive as all services are pretty much staying where they are, so I'm going to use my own plumber and electrician. I spoke to my plumber who said it would only cost around $600 (maybe a little more) and as there is minimal electrical work, so dont see that being more than $400. That said, I think $1,000 would be a fair amount for plumbing / electrical.

    Will keep you guys posted!

    Cheers,
    Robbie
     
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