Julian Assange: the truth is out there

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  1. Zenith Chaos

    Zenith Chaos Well-Known Member

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    Julian Assange joins the litany of those persecuted for speaking the hard truths: Giordano Bruno, Galileo Galelei, Socrates, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Michael Servetus, Rhazes and the list goes on.

    There is your truth, my truth, and the truth. Start by treating anything the media says with complete scepticism. Smoking is good for your health, all fats are bad, sugar industry cover ups How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, communism domino effect, etc.

    Rant over.
     
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    Surely you can't compare assange to great historical figures such as Socrates and Galileo.

    All that he has done is released someone else' secrets
     
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    Truth or not, you can't just hack into government servers and release the information you find. No matter what ends, they don't change illegal actions into legal ones.

    Julian Assange is being persecuted for breaking the law..... because he broke the law, not only did he do that but he did it willingly on multiple occasions and showed no remorse.

    Outcome is meaningless, he willingly broke the law.
     
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    Thats only true if you're a conspiracy theorist
     
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    I find it interesting that Assange avoided treading on the toes of autocrats lest he eat a novichok sandwich.
     
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    I think you can't even compare him to snowden. Snowden stole the secrets himself, smuggling them out at great personal risk.
     
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    What's more, he did not seem to have any concern for the consequences of his actions - with personal information on innocent and vulnerable people being published as well.

    Some of the actions of Wikileaks has been both naive and dangerous when it puts innocent people in harms way.
     
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    Which law(s) did he break?
     
  9. D.T.

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    Treason im guessing?
     
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    Can a person commit treason by a country they are not a citizen of?

    I think he has probably committed various crimes relating to release of top secret US govt information, telecommunications offences etc. Probably US laws mainly.
     
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    Ha haa, ha, washington post....pffft!
     
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    What about Mr Kim Dotcom. The yanks reached reached over to Kiwi Land and tried to nab him.

    I think if Julian did more house keeping such as clean the bathroom and did his bed, maybe he'd still be in the embassy. Id rather be living in a 3 storey building than a 10 foot cell.
     
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    I read the embassy was tired of him continuing to run Wiki from the embassy and jeopardising their standing and reputation. But apparently he also didn't clean his bathroom. :p

    And who knows what really happens behind the scenes anywhere.
     
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    Kim has this pinned to his Twitter:
    Frankly I think these claims of 'he broke the law' as if it is just black and white is a ridiculous misrepresentation of what has occurred in cases like this.
     
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    Joe. Sit down and listen carefully. The yanks run the world.
     
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    Yep - just like Australia is currently extraditing a guy from the US for alleged murder in Australia.

    I imagine there are a gazillion hurdles the legal system has to leap thru prior to an extradition notice being issued - and one of those would be a strong prosecution case. The reason he "hid" in the embassy was because Ecuador and the US did not have an extradition agreement ... the UK and US do.

    As soon as he was tossed out of the embassy - or they invited the UK police into remove him - as embassy grounds officially are under the same rules of the country of origin - the UK/US agreement swung into action
     
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