Job for Juniors - Certificate III in Business Admin (Legal)

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by RPI, 24th Aug, 2016.

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  1. RPI

    RPI Property Lawyer, Town Planner Business Member

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    Hi all
    With the ongoing (and rapid) growth of our law firm I need 2 more juniors.

    12 month traineeship - Certificate III in Business Admin (Legal) at the award wage. We pay the almost $2k for their study.

    Ideally someone looking for long term career in Legal Administration or looking at alternate path to be a lawyer. We really like 18 year olds in these positions who have worked part time during school, were committed to sports, dance or a musical instrument and have never worked in a law firm. Although we will look at older people as long as they have not worked in a law firm or related office environment previously.

    So if you know anyone then please PM their name and get them to do resume and cover letter to [email protected].
     
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  2. Joynz

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    Out of interest, what is the award wage?
     
  3. balwoges

    balwoges Well-Known Member

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    Why do you want staff who have no experience in a law office?
     
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    So you can mold them they way you want (presumbly).
     
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    Ben Chifley Well-Known Member

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    They are looking for kids straight out of school that they can legally pay $10.78 an hour through the traineeships scheme. Once the traineeship period runs out (12 months) they get new trainees they can pay at the same award.
     
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  6. RPI

    RPI Property Lawyer, Town Planner Business Member

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    No. We keep them. At the end of the year, once they have their qualifications, they make nearly the same as a first year lawyer does.

    The traineeship provider we use is excellent, they get a lot out of it. It also shows people who often didn't go well at school that they are smart and can achieve something.

    If they want to go down a legal path then we put them through a full apprenticeship in law - they work full time with us while studying through the legal profession admin board. We even loan them the college fees (and they repay weekly from their wage) so they come out as a lawyer debt free rather than the $50k it can cost to go through the uni path.

    If they want to go down the administration path then we support them through further study.

    We don't want people who have worked in law firms so we can train them the way we want them. Law firms are typically terrible at customer service and we don't want legal assistants to have picked up bad habits elsewhere. You can teach skills, you can't teach attitude.

    The first year is lowly paid but they get a great qualification and experience out of it. It works very well as it weeds out those entitled young ones who think they should be running the show or having the perfect facebook job from day one.

    Minimovers uses the same principle, if you have a truck licence you don't get work there as you may have moved something before.
     
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  7. abbyfresh

    abbyfresh Well-Known Member

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    And what is the going rate for a first year lawyer these days ? 45-50k pa.
     
  8. db9

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    add a zero ;)
     
  9. RPI

    RPI Property Lawyer, Town Planner Business Member

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    You are spot on with what we pay.

    A lot of firms start them on $35k for 3 months and then up from there but that is too low IMHO for 5 years of study. Although from a lot of the applications I get $35k is overly generous. Not quite sure how they get through uni without being able to spell or write a cover letter.
     
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    I was on the RPI graduate rate like 15 years ago straight out of UNI. Bottom end salaries really haven't moved in a long while compared to cost of living and housing. It's really out of kilter!

    I am way off topic now :D

    Anyhow, RPI great to see you are paying above the minimum and providing real investment and career growth for the serious juniors coming through the ranks. Most other firms will burn you up or spit you out more aggressively.