Is it illegal to change light bulbs without electrical licence?

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  1. property_geek

    property_geek Well-Known Member

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    My brand new property is about to rent out. During the in-going inspection report the property manager noticed some light bulbs are missing.

    She suggested to organise a licenced electrician to do this work. I suggested to use a handyman instead but she insisted on electrician.
    Her argument is to reduce liability in case some accident happens during putting in new bulbs.

    Is she right?

    Lights holders are regular baton style and the task is really simple. I could have done it myself but I live far.

    Property is in NSW.
     
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    What is happening to this world....
     
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  3. Gockie

    Gockie Life is good ☺️ Premium Member

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    Not illegal. Anybody can do that.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Yes this would reduce liability.
    But how likely is it for an electrocution from a light bulb change?

    Don't forget to surround the ladder which signs and witches hats.
     
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    I changed globes with my mouth. Part of a bet of course.

    Can't see why you would need a sparky.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    The agent should have just changed them when she discovered them - but probably prohibuted by her employer.
     
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    In WA it's a consumable and I believe tenant pays and installs.
     
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    Kind of ironic
    A post about light bulbs from @lightbulbmoment o_O
     
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    Yeah this post should of been pmed to me i am the guru.im amazed this question was asked though lol....
     
  10. dabbler

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    When a PM calls me saying a light bulb is out.....I tell them tell the tenant to go to bunnings etc, or if they wont, then it is the PMs problem, and if it went further, I would move PM.

    How many people does it take to change a light bulb ?

    PS just clarify with them that the batten holder or fitting is there, if yes, then that is it.

    PS PS you may need a new PM if this is true.
     
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    Bing....the penny just dropped :)
     
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    Oh, but the expense :eek:
    It could take two trips to Bunnings, 1st bulb purchased might be a screw in, onlu to go to change it and find a bayonet style :p ......
    Ensure the tenant stands on a swivel office chair to increase fall injury :confused:
     
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  13. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    Certain down lights are globe and fitting in one so these can't possibly be changed by a non electrician.

    For everything else, tell tenant to do it themselves.
     
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    I would be giving this pm the flick tommorow.
     
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    Most should have a power point, I only assume the guy means a newish place, but yeah, need to clarify if it is normal batten or something hard wired, in which case PM would be 100% correct.
     
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    I once did have a tenant try to put a bayonet bulb in a screw socket. Broke the bulb and couldn't unscrew it so an electrician did need to be called to make the repair (at the tenants expense).

    Just go there and change the light bulbs yourself (if you can). It's technically not the PMs responsibility, but at least in Victoria properties do need functioning bulbs at the start of the tenancy. After that it's the tenants responsibility.
     
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    Hey, do not laugh too hard, someone did this I know, climbed on a swivel chair and must have stood on the back support, people can do the silliest of things & usually those same people will be slow moving, un co ordinated & unaware of how falling on your face may damage stuff including the self.

    I am often left thinking, just what were they thinking ...... but seriously, I would have said to PM to just whack some in when they are there showing people or doing ingoing or whatever.
     
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    Part of the screening process for new tenants should be for them to have an IQ above their shoe size............and a willingness to do simple things and not make everyone's life harder than it need be. Same should apply to the PM as well :)
     
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    Left me with tears laughing :D
    Too true, we all know someone like that o_O
     
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    If I were an electrician, I'd be embarrassed :oops: to have completed a 4 year apprenticeship only to be asked to change a light, seriously?
     
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