IP ownership split

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  1. Scyth

    Scyth Active Member

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    Hi all

    Both wife and I signed the sale contract on our IP and have jointly applied for loan as one income wasn't enough to service the loan.

    Are there any benefits/demerits of changing the ownership structure for tax deductibility to say 90:10 in favor of me as I am the high income earner and wife will be going off on maternity leave soon? Strategy is buy and hold for long term.
     
  2. Terry_w

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    Depends if the contract can be changed. As tax benefits flow the to person on title and not the loan there are several options...The loan issue seems a fixed issue but why 50/50 if she wont work ?Is the property likely to be neg geared ?? What do you each earn etc.

    Also - What other property do you each own ?Land tax ?

    Assuming none then why is it in two names if its neg geared ?If its positive geared maybe her name ? This should demonstrate benefits of discussing tax issues before you act. And aftre. You seem to need a tax adviser.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    No need to change the contract - just need to settle in the correct name.
     
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    If its joint tenants or 50/50 TIC it would. The OP asked about making the contract 90:10 TIC. How can a contract and settlement be different without a CGT event ?

    My questions concerns the legal aspects to ensure the tax outcome is OK
     
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    No need. Can settle by direction. If there was a CGT event there would be no CGT as cost base would be the same as the proceeds.
     
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    But OSR see the event as dutiable. That being the issue I had more concern with.
     
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    Thanks Terry - LIke ++++...So $50 duty may occur. No problems with that.
     
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    Ty for the responses.

    The property will be negatively geared and is the only IP we have apart from a PPOR. The property is in Victoria, so will need to check Victorian law for double duty trigger.

    The reason I was saying 90:10 as I wasn't sure if it can be bought in one name as the contracts have been exchanged with two signatures.
     
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    The loan is with CBA and will need be in both names due to serviceability issues, won't be able to get it in my name, I don't think.
     
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    One for your lawyer to address. Good to see you have (albeit late) considered the issue. Provided you settle before 30 June I see no drama in Vic but legal advice needs to confirm how to do that
     
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    The Vic equivalent to the NSW s18 is
    S 17 Duties Act
    DUTIES ACT 2000 - SECT 17 No double duty

    but it is not as broad.

    As Paul says there is no duty on transfers between spouses in VIC anyway - but only until 30 June so you still have some time up your sleeve.