Incorrect cheaper roof profile installed

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  1. AnneC

    AnneC Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    A different roof has been installed to what was specified in our plans and contract.

    It is cheaper, thinner metal and different profile.

    The roofing contractor blames the builder saying that is what was ordered.

    Shouldnt the roofing contractor go by the plans which form part of the building permit? The roof type and profile was specified.

    Or can the builder tell the roofer to supply and install something different to the plans?
     
  2. Stoffo

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    You should have a contract with the builder, in this it should specify (or in writing somewhere) all the items and colors specific to your build.

    If the roofer has installed something different it is the job of the builder to check and have the roofer rectify.

    The only thing that the DA may apply to is color, or there may be conditions specified (covenant) as part of the estate (during land purchase), the builder also should be aware of these prior to building.

    Is the builder asking you to accept the roofing installed ?

    Builders today are more site managers than builders, so they should ensure the works are done as per contract, so they should have the roofer rectify, or their other way out is if you agree to accept this change
     
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  3. AnneC

    AnneC Well-Known Member

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    There is a contract with plans and specifications.

    A different roof to what was specified has been installed. The roof plumber has said that the builder asked him to quote for this roof as it was cheaper.

    So, if this is the case , should the roof go as per the builders instructions or what is specified on the plans?
     
  4. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    The roof should be what is in your contract with the Builder unless the builder raises a variation for the substitution and you agree AND get a credit for it being cheaper. Also consider if there is something in your contract that allows for substitution of materials if something isn't available.

    The roofer is not party to your contract and will just do what the builder tells him to do.
     
  5. K1200

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    the roofers contract is most likely with the builder, so he would take instruction from him.
     
  6. AnneC

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    No variation raised and no substitution allowed in contract.

    Should the roofer do what the builder tells him to do, when it is contrary to the plans?
     
  7. AnneC

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    Should the roofing contractor comply with plans which form part of the Building Permit?
     
  8. Stoffo

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    Best to stop and take a breath.

    Talking to the roofer or any other trade without doing so via the builder may get the builder off side, same as entering site without an invite or written permission.

    Also, this he said she said chatter will get you nowhere and only confuse any issue, your dealings should only be with the builder and when an issue like this arise you should raise it via email so you have a paper trail (not "but you said" chatter that you can't prove.)

    The roofer saying "the builder asked to quote the different roofing" if completely different to being asked to install the different roofing, so either the builder or roofer could have made the error....
    It doesn't matter to the roofer what the plans say, the roofer is only doing what tbe builder directs them to perform.
    Your agreement/contract with tbe builder specifies that you have told him to do the other roofing for payment

    Just ensure you have on agreed outcome to this before paying the next progess/stage payment
     
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    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    The roofer will do will do what the builder tells him to do. He is contracted by the builder to do as per his contract/work order between the 2 of them. If the builder sends him a work order for him to put on a pink roof and the plans show a white roof he will put on a pink roof.
     
  10. Stoffo

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    Correct, no matter how stupid the roofer may believe a pink roof will look on a pink house with purple gutters he won't question it :eek:

    He will do what that writing work order says (and carefully guard that work order as proof so he will get paid :D)
     
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    What profile did you specify and what profile did you get?
     
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    What Westminster said...and if the roof is different to what was specified (and you need to be absolutely sure about this), you can ask the builder to remove and reinstate (not an easy ask), or provide information including a variation request with, presumably, a credit. The builder just can't go changing things without a proper variation procedure
     
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    Can you tell by looking at the roof that it isn't what you specified? I'm not sure what profiles are available - what did you order and what has been used?
     
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    You can pick the difference in profile eg spandek vs trimdek or a slightly different rob height but you can't tell by visual inspection 0.42 BMT or 0.48 BMT.

    Nor can you pick the difference in performance of Colorbond vs cheaper applications.

    You have to pick up the delivery docket/packing slip etc to confirm.
     
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    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    Ordered pitched and got flat? :D

    The Y-man
     
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    A bum note. Shift a half-tone.
     
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  17. AnneC

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    I am absolutely sure it is a different profile. No variation was requested.
     
  18. AnneC

    AnneC Well-Known Member

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    Definite different profile. Our contract and plans specified 0
     
  19. AnneC

    AnneC Well-Known Member

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    Definitely different profile roof.

    It is three storey . The builder then went and put a different profile on the top roof which is different to the one below. Neither of the two profiles was the one specified in the contract and plans.
     
  20. AnneC

    AnneC Well-Known Member

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    Different profile. A .48 roof was specified. Not sure how we can find out whether it is 0.42 or 0.48 ???
     

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