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How to subdivide for dummies

Discussion in 'Development' started by moridog, 13th Mar, 2016.

  1. moridog

    moridog Well-Known Member

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    Hi, the IP my friend and I have is now rezoned, the block is quite steep and I wondered where to start to get ballpark figures for subdividing in two, no way the house could be retained and the block also slopes from front to back and side to side, also wondered if we subdivided, I think you have to connect services but would you have to retain as well, would like to create two green titled blocks. big questions I know thanks in advance.
     
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    Dial before you dig is your friend ;) find out what's there
     
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  3. Westminster

    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    Best place to start if with a survey company who handles subdivisions. I use LandDivision - they can survey and manage all the work to apply to WAPC for the 2 titles.

    It will cost in the vicinity of $30k to get it done plus demolition of around $20k. So all up looking at $50k to get the 2 blocks titles. That doesn't include retaining :)
     
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    MTR Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Pretty much spot on
    I paid around $45,000 to subdivide corner lot into 2 strata blocks, for green titles would have cost an extra $10,000, this included fencing to separate blocks, not necessary though
     
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    MTR Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    make sure you get a quote for retaining, it can cost big $ dependent on how much block slopes

    Surprisingly I have been amazed at how accurate council has been with determining level of slope from front to rear, give them a call won't cost anything
     
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    order a flimsy from water corp. check for major sewer works.
    budget 10 - 15k for power.
    check local govt fees.
     
  7. moridog

    moridog Well-Known Member

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    Thanks very much, have been getting lots of invites to info sessions from local RE agents, would ideally love to build something to take advantage of views but may not be able to stretch that far, thought if it were sub divided may be able to keep one block, not certain how best to split, Myf, would Land Divison also provide advices on this?
     
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    Got a quote back, around six thousand for the work by the surveyors, I guess then you arrange connection and works yourself do you? I better go and see the council :)
     
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    Did that include services, siteworks, etc @MTR ?
     
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    everything including demolishing house, though demo is far more costly now
     
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    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    @Westminster or @MTR can you please explain what is meant by 'retaining' in this instance?

    Secondly, when you subdivide does this mean the house number gets split into A and B i.e. 40A Smith St and 40B Smith St?

    Also, when sub-divided - it is always two free standing homes or can a semi-detached be classified as a sub-division too?
     
  12. Colin Rice

    Colin Rice Mortgage Broker Australia Wide Business Member

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    You need to talk to a surveyor and also get a pro to do a feaso for you.

    I got a good contact who can take care of both aspects.
     
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    Westminster Tigress at Tiger Developments Business Member

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    Retaining can mean two thing
    1. keeping an existing house
    2. building walls to manage slope. Generally this is the one we're talking about. Building retaining walls adds in cost and even the smallest of slopes creates issues when you are fully utilising the block

    Numbering is up to the council's discretion. You may get 40A and B, 40 and 40A, 40 and 42 if 40 is the last house on the street or 1/40 2/40 3/40 if there is quite a few
    In WA subdivision can be free standing, semi detached and apartments.
     
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    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the feedback @Westminster. Much appreciated
     
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    CHECK Legal point of discharge before you do anything, that's my advice!

    **Goes back to shaking head over 22k pump system**
     
  16. moridog

    moridog Well-Known Member

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    Another dummie question, if the surveyors do the work and submit to WAPC who do you hire to do all of the head Works? Although the block could fit a triplex I am very much re considering two, green, titled blocks although they would be battle axe and I know it will add a minimum 10 thousand ish for the separate sewer etc.
     
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    Does the survey include a feasibility analysis ?