VIC How to decline tenant request for mobility and grab handles

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  1. Joynz

    Joynz Well-Known Member

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    By the way, where exactly did they want the grab rails? In the shower, by the toilet or by the bath?

    The reason I ask is that there are frames that fit around a toilet that don’t require attaching to a wall.
     
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    9649BF89-E151-4EDA-B0AE-8CC362EC29C1.png This is not a response to the OP as she doesn’t want grab rails, but I wanted to mention that modern grab rails don’t look as clunky and institutional as they used to.

    The Evacare range at Bunnings (pictured) incorporates grab rails into towel rails, shelves and toilet roll holders. Great design and wouldn’t detract from the look of a modern bathroom.
     

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  3. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Further to what Joynz said, you could ask your property manager to propose other properties on the rent roll that might be more suited to their needs, and allow them to move out without complying with the necessary notice periods etc.
     
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    It depends on the bathroom fitout, and how slippery surfaces are.

    We have travelled extensively overseas. My pet hate are hotel bathrooms with the shower over the bath, which is often set quite high. Only a few have grab rails. Without these, getting in, and more particularly getting out, is downright dangerous. And I am fit and healthy.
    Marg
     
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    Would you be willing to allow it on the proviso they sign a long-term lease (say 5 years)? That may make the hassle worthwhile
     
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    What hassle? It would be completed by the Government body. Though I have a strong feeling that they would do a poor and almost unprofessional job. Maybe I didn't make to obvious. I don't wish do have my beautiful bathrooms ruined. I plan on returning to the property after a short stint interstate and I love the bathrooms how they are.
     
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    Just write that in your reply , surely it cant be that hard to write a letter pointing out your reasons why they should not be fitted.
    Are you looking for some sort of justification ??? to refuse their request.
    It also lets them move on and find another place to rent ,as you mentioned you will only be "interstate" for short period of time and will be returning shortly , and as you previously mentioned you dont need the rent money.
     
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    Good point. Something I 'll consider for the bathroom reno - big bath!
     
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    By replying with no abuse or swearing saying that does not fit with you.

    If they have been there only 12 months, that means they knew it had none of these features, so they selected a place for some reason that was not really suitable for them.

    I would just suggest they find a place that is more suitable if it is really required by them.
     
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    Def do not do it.

    As per other response, allow them to move with no penalty.

    Also I would prob dig & see if it is required or they just want to do it cause govt will do for free.

    I would allow them too go even though they are the ones who selected a non suitable property it seems.
     
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    Ba dum, tish!

    Seriously, a similar thread popped up last year. See my response in there
    Request from tenant for disabled person modifications

    TL;DR - my partner is an OT specialising in home mods, suction rails are a no no.
    As mentioned, they don't have to be old-school hospital-beige rails. There are stylish options out there if you know where to look.
     
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    OP wants the bathroom as is, it really ends there.
     
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    From middle of next year you will have to allow those mortifications, Victoria and NSW? .

    Reading that you are discriminating, that is entrenched in other Laws both State and Federal.

    Try your luck at a tribunal and see how you go. but YMMV

    Because many Owners do not treat Tennants fairly as a result you are seeing Legalisation being passed to protect them.
     
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    Nice grab rail. But I wouldn't have that toilet cleaner handle located where it is. After a big night out one could get "snookered" if they miss the seat. Getting watery eyes just thinking about it. I'd move it next to the toilet roll.
     
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    How does the landlord know what condition the tenants were in a year ago. It's not the owner's job to screen tenants when they go through a PM, and to check whether they will require grab rails some time in the future.. Perhaps one has recently broken or fractured their leg/hip and this is a new condition that has only recently arisen.
     
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    What is the basis for this?

    The request is to modify a bathroom to the extent it can not be returned to it's previous condition - after a lease has been signed.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it is important to make properties suitable for tenants but their requirements have changed and they need something different to that which they rented.

    Letting them go and find something more suitable given the change in circumstances seems very reasonable.
     
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    I note that the OP has clarified that they will be moving back into the property at some stage. Understandable response to reject the works.

    Do the modifications make the bathroom unsuitable for future tenants? No

    Would they be less attractive to other tenants? Questionable
     
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    I remember.
    I seriously thought this was a troll as the topic definitely brings out the best and the worst (at least once annually).
    But you still get the same responses .... :p
     
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