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  1. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    In our case, the wall lining was masonite, painted a lovely shade of "toilet green" which went so well with the fake grass carpet. We also had aluminium sliders :eek:. If lucky, the original railings will be behind that lining board (doesn't look at all like asbestos). We removed the masonite and added VJ fake board to match the rest of the house.

    $10k to remove is high, even if it is asbestos (doubtful from the look of it). We've had four lots of asbestos removals, and not reached $10k yet for essentially a full house (internally).

    I respect your opinion, but MDF VJ looks perfectly ok as it is not in the same room as real VJ so you don't notice the slightly different widths.

    Anyway, I'm not splitting hairs here, but only saying we have a house exactly the same layout and this one (like ours) has pretty much been left alone except for bad carpet and that closed in sunroom. Sooooo easy to return it to its former glory. Much better to rip out bad renovations than rip out something that doesn't suit the house but cost too much to ditch.
     
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    Converting a closed in veranda sounds like a small component of the house which wouldn’t be too bad. A deal breaker for me would be having to convert all walls.. and such a shame having a character house with ‘fake’ walls. There are quite a few for sale, I’d prefer to wait for the next one with not as much work to do.

    Did you end up keeping the veranda enclosed? Have you replaced the aluminium sliders with original timber swing windows? I’m not sure how the MDF would fair exposed to the weather if the wall cavity isn’t completely sealed and boards aren’t fully sealed (gloss paint?).
     
  3. wylie

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    I cannot see any other walls that need "converting". Most of them look original VJ and one bedroom looks like it has been sheeted. My guess is someone wanted to "modernise" that room. Hey presto, remove the sheeting and the VJs will be underneath.

    Seriously, there isn't much work in that cottage. New kitchen and bathroom, sure.

    We kept the verandah enclosed with ugly sliders because one side is the "third" bedroom. Everything is fully sealed, outside with weatherboards. When we shift this house we will open up half the front verandah so there is some outside living and the other side we will replace the ugly sliders with timber windows and suddenly it will no longer be ugly.

    Edit: Just took another look and it seems several rooms have masonite "modern" sheeting. Half an hour with hubby and me and that would be gone, back to beautiful VJ.
     
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    Are we looking at the same 62 Thomas St? The photos don't show a single room with exposed VJ. They're all lined with fibro - the cover strips are a give away. I don't think they're Masonite. Did you have a look inside? I'm just looking at the re.com ad.
     
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    That's weird. I went through it and could have sworn it was all VJ. It looked like an easy cosmetic reno.

    Either way, it's a good price. 12 months ago and you could have nearly bought a renovated 5 bedder for 100k more.
     
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    You are right. I saw "gaps" that look like they are masonite, but some rooms have half round dowel cover strips, so it could be asbestos. The belt rails are still there, so the VJs are under whatever the sheeting is. The VJs cannot have been removed as they are single skin.

    So, apologies about thinking the VJs were there "on show". Removing masonite would cost nothing but half a day and if that sheeting is asbestos, that would likely be about $5k. Our son had ceilings and walls removed for three bedrooms, full kitchen and bathroom, hallway, two toilets, vestibule and downstairs storeroom removed for less than $5k and that included two trucks. It included all kitchen carcasses and bath, linen press from bathroom.

    It cost him another $5k to have a plasterer replace all that but with VJ, there is nothing else to do but patch and paint the VJ underneath.

    To my eye, this house is in good original condition, and even adding $5k to remove asbestos (if it is asbestos), it leaves a good solid timber house. This is what we've always bought and we could renovate this with our eyes shut. If I can find the photos of the one we have that is the same as this I'll post them up.

    It was in similar condition to this. We spent about $15k all up removing a wall, ripping up carpets, ripping out bathroom and replacing it, refurbishing (mostly painting existing carcasses) kitchen and new cooker, sanding floors, painting throughout (we did that ourselves).

    It is still ugly until we rip out the sliders at the front, but inside it is back to its former glory.
     
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    I missed the boat on that one but I would of gone with 600k (easy with the hindsight)

    Just looking at home hero gave it 640k and median 602k (which Brisbane I feel is in growth phase so it is probably lagging behind).

    The low estimate was 580k, hence my 600k price but again easy with the hindsight to make this claim.

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    $5k is an excellent price to strip out that much.. For our last reno I did lots of running around to get the lowest cost and that was $8k. I was getting $10k quotes consistently, even up to $12k :eek: Lots of thieves on the northside!

    As much as I don't like the MDF VJ I think its a great alternative to plasterboard.. a bit expensive for the sheeting, but the save in time and money on plastering makes it worthwhile. Your son didn't have a crack at installing the VJ?

    I had my eye on this one in Coorparoo a while ago.. along the same line. Sold Price for 18 Macaulay Street Coorparoo Qld 4151

    Went fairly cheap in the end. It had city views from the front and not too much work in restoring the original features. The subfloor was horrendous, but that would all be redone when raising it to legal height to capture more view.
     
  9. wylie

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    That Macaulay Street house is a cracker, and we've tackled that type of job enough times that I'd be very comfortable tackling that. The bit at the back is a bit weird and that (for me) would be the decider. Remove it (and lose some living space) or keep the odd extension?

    Price sounds pretty good too. Did you think of buying?
     
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    Really wanted to buy that one, but the boss wouldn't step foot on the property.. She didn't like the street appeal (easy fix), the subfloor was in a bad way (needed re-stumping asap), and the back was pretty funky. It had a big greenhouse and an elevator attached to the back - I thought it was cool. Someone did pretty well - excellent price considering the city view.

    The public trustee was firm with their reserve for months after it was passed in at auction.. took a while for them to drop their price.
     
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    This is our latest project.. I was happy to see the dodgy plywood cladding on the walls thinking it would scare a few people off, then very relieved to see the VJ's in good condition when I took the cladding off.
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  12. wylie

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    I get quite excited by that sort of house in that condition. Perhaps I'm strange :p.

    What was the reserve before they dropped to the sale price? Do you recall?

    And I'd love to have got hold of that latest project of yours too. Lovely how the couch matches the curtains, matches the carpet. And all equally horrible :D.

    We had one similar to yours with a double room (but the divider was long gone) where we did it up, couldn't afford to sand the floors, so coated them with estapol with black stain to mimic the japanning of old, had an open house Saturday morning to find a tenant. We needed rent badly, back in the days when we had no buffer (except my parents if we really had to ask for a payday loan from them).

    About 5pm Friday when it was all done, cleaned up and ready for the open house next morning, hubby called and said he'd decided to rip out the office ceiling. The previous owner had added a suspended ugly ripple panel and office style fluro lights all suspended from dozens of metal hanging brackets. It was suspended about 18 inches down from the very high ceilings. It was ugly, but without knowing what was behind it, we needed to get rent flowing so had decided to leave it.

    With hubby being there on his own that last day before the open house, he took it upon himself to remove it. The old plaster fancy ceilings (much like yours above) were peeling over the whole expanse, flakes and six inch strips of paint just hanging down everywhere. There wasn't three inches of "good" ceiling. I loved that he'd removed it, but we stayed there very late removing what we could, sanding the ceilings and doing a couple of coats.

    Moral of the story... never leave my husband alone in a house on his own. :D
     
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    I also get excited by seeing the really weird condition of the old houses.. as you said they're very easy to fix and come up very nice (easy for me to say before starting the prep work on the walls :eek:).

    The reserve for Macaulay Street was $600 from memory. I might drive past one day and see where they're up to with it.

    Haha, sounds your hubby pulled the ceiling down more out of curiosity.. What material was the ripple ceiling?

    We've got ornate ceiling roses (plaster) in three of the rooms (with big fluro lights attached).. and they're all different. We don't like them and the paint is hanging down.. not looking forward to refurbing them. Do you think the ornate ceiling roses should be saved?
    it would be pretty easy to pull them down and replace with VJ.. maybe with downlights installed but not sure if this is too modern from the ceiling roses?
     
  14. wylie

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    This is similar to what was there. What was the owner thinking? open-plan-office-1200x300-led-t-bar-2.4m-x-1.8m-3d-corner-600.jpg

    Hubby pulled it out because it was really bugging him that it was so ugly when we had worked so hard to make the place look its best. It was always going to come out, but not at 5pm the night before the first open house :eek:.

    I would keep the original ceiling if at all possible. I've stopped painting now after years of DIY painting. The last place we had painted, had a peeling ceiling and we had our trusted painter spend some time sanding it back to a solid base, and then adding something that allowed the new coat to stick. It took a bit of trial and error, and I think he also used a special sealer, but it has stopped the peeling.

    We will get him to do that to the ceiling that had bad peeling but it is fairly dodgy in a good light so we may have to swap it for new rather than pour money into what isn't a great base. If we do new, we will replicate what is there because that is a fairly big "wow" in the room.
     
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    Worst part of having any house & due to the cost to pay others, the DIY is almost unavoidable, maybe you try coming down south and painting a few lowsets for me, you may like them more :)

    lol where we live, I goth halfway through painting etc, lucky the boss has given up beating me up too much about it.... :p
     
  16. wylie

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    I remember once (probably 17 years ago) when we renovated our PPOR, we were so busy renovating an IP that we got a painter in to paint our PPOR.

    I remember having some sort of epiphany whilst climbing up and down a hired platform for the high ceilings, up and down, working my buns off in the stinking heat of summer near a tin roofed queenslander ceiling and it hitting me like a ton of bricks... why are we painting an IP that we cannot claim the cost of painting on whilst paying non-deductible money to a painter in our house, possibly painting in air-conditioned comfort?

    We didn't plan that too well.
     
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    lol....no, that was a mistake, but I find I get things finished on anything that is not home.
     

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