Historic pub demolished without permit

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by JacM, 18th Oct, 2016.

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  1. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    I was a frequent visitor during my UoM years and had a lot of fond memories in that pub. It was our go to place whenever there was a celebration or when we finished an exam. Really heart-broken by the news.

    I'm pretty sure the developer will claim since there was a fire the week before, the place was no longer inhabitable and hence the demolition was necessary. I hope these greedy developers got what they deserve.
     
  4. Ed Barton

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    I think the council can get, rightly, quite vindictive in these situations and take years and years and years to grant building approval and otherwise make life tough for the developer. Nothing a political donation or a brown paper bag can't fix.
     
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    Should require the site to be converted to public space for a period of 10 years as a fine
     
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    They are (maybe were) looking at building student accommodation of 700 beds for this site.

    It appears the Developer is South African.
     
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    happens way too much............

    "The site along Parramatta Road is now boarded up and conceals a block filled with rubble and debris.
    Leichhardt Council said that as a result of the illegal demolition, Mr Gertos and the development company no longer had approval to develop the site at all."

    Sydney developer fined after illegally demolishing heritage building
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    At least in NSW they have the balls to lock up the site for 10 years (sort of puts a dent in your ability to service debt).

    NSW has had the teeth for years: Linky - Roses Emporium
     
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    I'm guessing that they probably lit the fire so they had an excuse to demolish. $200k fine is probably factored into their cost of doing business.

    I think if it can be shown that they 1. lit the fire 2. demolished the building 3. demolished the building knowing a fine would be paid and treated fine as a cost of business, then the directors should go to jail.

    Fines for breaking the law should not be a cost of doing business.

    Of course, this is just a hunch and probably can't be proven.
     
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    Just a pity they could not save all the internal hotel fit--off they may have and rebuild it some where within the 700 bed complex,same thing happens within inner Brisbane all the time,all they do is apologize pay the fine then do it again..
     
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    "I'm sorry to hear about your fire"
    "Shh, it's tomorrow"
     
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    Sorry my fault I was looking at 16-32 Leicester St Carlton, which is a different property.

    Not sure what they are wanting to develop from this pile of rubble as there isn't anything at council yet.
     
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    That was my thought too - a $200k fine is petty cash when the purchase price is that high. They probably just factored it into their feaso.
     
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    That's ok i did not look on the local councils site,if you have that sort of money to play with then you would look at all the bureaucrats all the way down..
     
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    Neither did I, the company I work for reports upcoming projects (not just apartments) so it took 2 seconds of searching just I didn't double check the address first :).
     
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    That's what happens in outposts of civilisation - no respect for history.
     
  17. JacM

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    Oh dear, reports say that there is asbestos strewn amongst the demolished rubble.
     
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    Throw the book at them.
     
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    You've mentioned this one before and I tried to find more info but couldn't. That area has changed so much but we used to drive through there on the way to my grandmother's and I wanted to see if I could remember it - or what I've missed.
    Any more info/ old pics?
     
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