Help! What would you do?

Discussion in 'Renovation & Home Improvement' started by Kip, 7th Apr, 2019.

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  1. The Y-man

    The Y-man Moderator Staff Member

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    We just had a badly leaking shower fixed (failed waterproofing) at a property in Melbourne

    The quote for redoing the water proofing and new tiles was $4k.

    However, once the tiles were off, it was found there was significant damage to the timber work to the side and under. $2.3k additional for repair to timber, new base.

    So $6.3k inc GST for the entire works.

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  2. Clyde

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    $6,800 for the 'quick' fix sounds like highway robbery. If tiles have fallen off, it could just be they were not sealed or grouted properly and water has got in behind them. Even leaking pipes through the wall should not cost this much to fix or to then seal and replace the tiles after undersealing the problem area with adequate waterproofing.

    Do you have any pictures of the bathroom and problem so we can better advise to repair or redo the whole thing.

    I would lean towards having it repaired by someone who does not rob people for a living.

    Some photos would be good. If the bathrrom is small and a bit old and crappy, an economic makeover could be the answer.
     
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    Hi Clyde

    I have attached the photos to this post. Can you let me know what you think?
     

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    What is the rest of the bathroom like?
     
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    It’s fairly dated. I would not put another $6k+ into that bathroom to repair it.

    I’d gut it and start again. Update it and you may be able to get more rent too. I wouldn’t put a spa bath back in but a smaller freestanding (or built in) bath and a larger shower.

    Of course it depends on so many things (how much rent you get, the area, how tired is the whole place ?) how much you will want to spend. You don’t want to overspend.

    And if you don’t have the cash to gut and start again I’d do as suggested in another post and plonk in a fiberglass shower to get you through until such time as you can afford to do it properly. But whatever you spend on a fix is money you will be wasting if you really do need to update sooner rather than later.
     
  7. Kip

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    Thoughts?? Do i really need a renovation at this point? The guy who gave me a quote said there is waterproofing damage... but should i just do what
    THANK YOU!!!!
     
  8. Kip

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    I really really appreciate it. You have no idea.
     
  9. wylie

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    I'm happy to help in any way even if that is just giving my opinion if it helps clarify the issue.

    I guess I think back to the times we just couldn't afford to do anything due to having no cash. Once I recall we couldn't afford to sand the floors so we painted estapol with black stain to match the Japanned floor and freshen it up. It cost us a hundred or so dollars and our time.

    We knew that when we could afford to get the floors sanded it would mean spending extra due to the sander having to remove two or more thick layers of estapol type sealer. This is exactly what happened but by then we had the funds to cover the extra sanding pads as they clogged up with the cheap "fix" we had done.

    Our cheap fix did cost us more, but it made the house more attractive to renters at the time.

    If this was my bathroom and I didn't have say $6k or $10k (depending on level of finish you choose), then if you could fix it for $500 or $1k and that got you another five years before either doing it properly or selling the place, then that is worth doing rather than outlaying $10k if you don't have it.

    But if you can afford it, and it will improve the overall rentability of the place, I'd do it now.

    And you can keep costs down by not going overboard with frameless glass and expensive tiles and fittings. Keep it simple.
     
  10. bunkai

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    The damage isn't really clear but when you get quotes from someone who specialises in rebuilding showers (or wants to quote you for rebuilding a shower), then you get a quote for rebuilding a shower.

    Maybe get a quote from one of those mega seal franchises, they may have something that will get you by for a while, at a lower cost. It's dated but not terminal. However, I wouldn't pay big bucks for an interim repair either and maybe you can say you are looking for a few options.
     
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    Sorry but I don't understand your reasoning....tenants ruin the property...over long term there's wear and tear and some things can be of poor workmanship?
    I had two bathrooms redone and water proofing (we did them in stages as tenants lived there so they could use at least one at a time), gave them a discount for the two weeks of inconvenience of bathroom works, so it was a win/win situation. There are other ways to solve this issue!
    I did not have a loss of rent, just slight temporary discount fro two weeks, the tenants now have new non leaking bathrooms.
    The previous tenants did not cause and ruin the bathroom, it was rather poor workmanship of people who built it 19 years ago. Why do you assume every tenant would ruin the property?
    Even rental properties need to be maintained and provide some decent reliability...not just those to be sold!
    However, my aim is never to sell that place...so far on paper it has 189% CG.
     
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    Hi thanks for all the info. Would you happen to have any contacts in Melbourne that do bathroom renovation???

    I have gone with reduce rental and renovate bathroom option. I just now need to find a builder. Any recommendations would be so so so grateful!
     
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    I have a handyman contact that could possibly do this, I’ll find out if he’s available at the moment as he is very popular for Reno’s.
     
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    Omg yes please... Can you PM me their number?
     
  15. The Y-man

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    @Kip

    Have pm'd a handyman that just did a fair bit of work for me. See if he can help you.

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  16. Rugrat

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    Renovating the entire bathroom is going to be an expensive option. But if it is old and extremely dated, as yours appears it may be, then that bigger expense outlay now can make more sense in the longer term.

    We just done the bathroom in one of our IP's and it set us back 16k. The benefit being that it shouldn't need to be touched again for a long long time, as it is now basically 'new'. Plus it now has a lot more appeal to tenants. We actually renovated the entire place as hadn't been done up, other then basic maintenance, from when the place was built back in the 60's prior to this. The reno costs were significant, but our rental income has doubled and valuation increased in line with the amount spent on the renovations carried out, and now they should only need basic maintenance for quite a long time into the future.
     
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    Hi Kip - he is ok to do this and have PM’d you his number. Mentioned $7k for fixing waterproofing is too much.
    Just let him know I gave you his details from property chat forum so he knows where you came from.
    Good luck!
     
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  18. Kip

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    Ok will do thanks so much!!
     
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    Thanks so so much. Really appreciate it...you have no idea!!