Gutters and downpipes Repair or Replacement.

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  1. A.M.W

    A.M.W Well-Known Member

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    Hi, all.

    I think this might be my fourth posts since I joined (mid 2017). I would like to thanks not just for all the advises I received but all the knowledge and tips I gained by reading this forum. It helped me a lot to response better in various circumstances. (dealing with PM, my parent's neighbour, tax accountant ect)

    I do shift work and unfortunately I am rostered to work on father's day and there is a lot of downtime. This forum has been a great whenever there is downtime at work. Anyway back to the topic....

    I have an IP in Kallangur. It is a low set 3bd house that I purchased in Jan this year. From the initial inspection from the PM agency to the last routine inspection they have mentioned about damaged section of gutters (above the wooden stair and how it is damaging the stair).

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    As you can see the gutter looks bad and the back tread might be a potential safety issue.

    The PM emailed me a quote from 3D Building Carpentry and Construction Specialist.
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    I've asked my PM if this was to repair or replace the existing gutters because I was under the impression that it was going to be repaired. He suspects that it could be for replacing the whole gutters / downpipes. She also said that since it is a quote for replacing the rest of gutters might not be in good condition. I am a bit disappointed why all these questions are not addressed when the PM received the quote. My question is...


    1. Would it be better to repair just the damaged section? if it can be repair?

    2. This company is not a roof specialist. Is this not unusual? PM was going to seek a 2nd quote.

    3. The total length of the gutters is around 30 to 40m². I did a rough measurement using the floor plan from sales. Is this a bit excessive? I've read a thread about someone who got a $3k quote 60m². Any recommendation will be appreciated.

    4. What kind of tax deduction will be applied here. I gather that a lot of people believe it is a capital expenses and but still some said it is repair that can be deducted immediately.

    Any advice will be appreciated.

    Cheers
     
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  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    1. It is guttering, it is not damaged, it has rusted through, it cannot be repaired.
    2. Why do you require a roofer, it's a gutter.
    3. Gutter is measured in lineal metres. Is m² excessive? Are you comparing apples for apples?
    4. The tax deduction will be the usual type. If you pay cash, no receipt, no deduction.
     
  3. Beano

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    Check the fall
    It could have rusted out due to water sitting in the gutter
     
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    Can’t see why the work needs a licenced builder though!
     
  5. Joynz

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    Get confirmation if all the gutters are being replaced and what they will be replaced with (e.g. colourbond with matching down pipes, what colour etc).

    You can also ask for more than one quote to be arranged. I don’t know if you need a plumber to do the guttering in QLD?

    If the rest of the gutter and down pipes are in good condition, then just a single section can be replaced. However, if they are old, metal gutters there may be more rust in the other sections.

    Has the builder quoted for the step repair too?
     
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  6. A.M.W

    A.M.W Well-Known Member

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    Hi, Scott No Mates.

    My bad. I meant 30m not 30m². ^^.
     
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  7. A.M.W

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    Thanks Beano.
    I might try to contact the company who did a quote and find out.
     
  8. A.M.W

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    Hi, Joynz.

    I think Joynz from this forums did use a company called Roofasters Pty Ltd to do guttering. That's why I assumed this type of work is done by roof specialist.
     
  9. Joynz

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    If that round, white pipe is coming from the gutter, it looks like it’s
    discharging onto the pathway rather than into the storm water - will cost more to divert it to the storm water.

    Get an idea of how much before you give the go ahead as there is a sentence in the estimate that mentions that this will cost extra.

    If they need to link with the storm water, I believe they will need a plumber and the builder would usually add a percentage on to the plumber’s cost if they organise it.

    Either way, it might be worth asking the builder who/what trades will be doing the various bits (gutter, storm water if needed, step etc).
     
  10. A.M.W

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    Cheers Joynz.

    The routine inspection was done twice since the purchased of the property but apart from the rusted section there was no mention about the general condition of the entire guttering. I should ask the PM to find out the condition of the rest of the gutters.

    No I believe this quote is just for replacing the gutters and downpipes.
     
  11. Joynz

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    Wasn’t me who used that company. Though, I can understand using a plumber if required by regs and at least they should get the fall right as well as sort out any stormwater issues (just wasn’t sure why the quote was from a builder.

    Builders co-ordinate other trades usually - bringing in carpenters, plumbers etc and charging a bit for the co-ordination role. Some builders may also be qualified carpenters etc too.
     
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  12. A.M.W

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    Hi, Joynz.
    Apology. It was wylie who used Roofmasters to do her guttering.
    Thanks for all the advice. Really appreciate it.

    I think there is a couple of downpipes. One I see in this pic is going down straight into the stormwater whereas the one you've mentioned is an odd one.

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  13. Tom Rivera

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    The first step is to get clarification on that quote.

    1. How much guttering is being replaced and why? At that price, they aren't just replacing the rusted section. It probably needs more, but it might not.

    2. Does the quote include plumbing that back down pipe into the storm water plumbing? The quote is very vague on this and you want to get that done if possible while you're already spending so much money.

    Guttering is often done by a variety of trades. I'd usually have a Plumber or Handyman doing the smaller sections, or a Roofer if it's more extensive work.
     

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