Granny Flat - Corner Block

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  1. Declan

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    I currently have a property in Westmead which is a corner block and im looking to build a Granny Flat.

    I understand that the setback for a side boundary is 0.9m but does that apply for corner block where the granny flat is facing the street?
     
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    You should have a primary street and secondary street setback requirement.
     
  3. Declan

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    Does anyone know the secondary street setback size for a granny flat?
     
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    You get to choose. Side needs to be 900, rear 3m but you choose which will be primary and secondary
     
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    Ok got it so I have got 3m on the rear and 0.9m to one side of the street.

    What is the primary set back?
     
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    You choose. 900mm or 3m.
     
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    thx Biz! so its 3m from rear and 3m facing one street and 0.9m facing the other street.

    Have I got it right?
     
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    No, the front needs to basically line up with the houses either side
     
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    Got it thanks Biz :)
     
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    Hi Declan,

    Not sure if you want to do under DA or CDC. If DA i need to know what is your local council so i can check the DCP and LEP.

    With CDC, the primary street frontage, setback is 4.5m or average distances of nearest 2 dwelling.

    Secondary street setback is 2m, side setback is 0.9m, rear setback is 3m. Limited building height is 3.8m, max FSR is 60m and min. lost size is 450m2. Hope this will help.
     
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    Secondary street setback depends on the block size.
    <600sqm = 2m
    <900sqm = 3m

    NSW Legislation
     
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    Hey mate, I've heard that in block with three sides, the rear 3m setback doesn't stand. Do you know if that's true?
     
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    Thanks nek, couldn't find anything on his site about a three sided lot but did find this in the legislation.

    (d) the setback from a rear boundary required by clause 10 of this Schedule does not apply to a lot that has only 3 boundaries, disregarding any boundary of an access lane if the lot is a battle-axe lot.

    Claude 10 stipulates the 3m setback which seems nullified in my case.
     
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    Yet it doesn't really stipulate what the boundary is. I think the certifier has told us 900mm
     
  16. Brazen

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    So a corner block can have as it's 'front' any side you like. I've found it's often best to designate the same frontage of the main dwelling. This is because a granny flat cannot be closer to the street than the 'prevailing' setbacks of adjoining houses. By designating it this way (same as the house), you can have a 2 meter (block < 600 sq m) or 3 meter (blocks > 600 sq m) side setback to the 'secondary street'; which is exactly what the NSW SEPP requires.

    There are rare cases where the opposite is better BUT:
    1. Its rare to have houses closer than 2 or 3 mtrs to the street frontage - but it does happen.
    2. Its often good to have the granny flat a bit away from the street anyway - think traffic noise...road dust etc.

    The setback to the boundary opposite the street (which is the one the house faces) is designated as the 'rear setback' and needs to be 3 meters (as always) and all other setbacks are 900 mm.

    Note on Rear Setbacks: Rear setbacks are penalised heavily where the height of the granny flat is > 3.8 meters above natural ground.

    Serge Panayi
     
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    Hi Serge ( @Brazen )

    We’re looking at putting in a granny flat and we’re on a corner block .

    Am I correct in saying that you can nominate either street to be your primary street ?

    We’re on around 800 m2 ( Turramurra )

    While our house fronts into our address street , our garage faces the secondary street . When I’ve looked at the example plans in the government portal ( link below ) , we’re effectively type 2

    https://dpe-files-prod1.s3-ap-south...y_Flats_Building_Articulation_Corner_Lots.pdf

    Seeing this , I thought we’d be restricted to having to build behind 4.5 m

    The reality is the other houses in the same section of the secondary street treat it as a side street and if this is the case it’s 0.9 m which is a significant difference in and in relation to the specifics of the site and how it is placed in relation to the PPOR .

    We’re on a VERY quiet street with rush consisting of pedestrians + - dog(s) walking to the local park so in a practical basis , having the GF that close wouldn’t be an issue and might actually aid in terms of design .

    Would appreciate your opinion .

    Regards

    Cliff