Good time to short

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  1. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    Been shorting for last few months.

    Much more market uncertainty to come. If there ever is a time to go short, it's here.


    Also massive buying opportunities at the other end.


    Not advice. Dyor.
     
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  2. gman65

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    I'm not a shorter... but we are now surely starting to enter a bear market for a few months where the cost of energy and large inflation will put a real fear into the world economy. Probably lead to a recession in some parts of the world. Will be great buying soon.

    S&P support breached last night in the US. It's on!
     
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  3. Alex AB

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    I don’t trade so I don’t short. But want to buy some more ETF in the next few months so put a order 30 mins ago and let’s see if it will hit today. If not, will do so again when it is at my predetermined level.
     
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    Seem so but if the war creates inflation due to higher energy price, I think they will leave it alone as it is hopefully transitionary. Also they won’t want to raise rate to rock the economy any further.

    Hopefully Russia will stop soon; or go hard and go home. Else this uncertainty will depress the market even longer.
     
  5. eyespy1

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    My shares are all in the red but yes buying opportunities coming up as lots of things are looking cheap.
     
  6. Sackie

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    They will look even cheaper by this time next week.
     
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    Shopping time....
     
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    Hope you are still shorting crypto too... seems like the easiest target in times of uncertainty these days.
     
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    I've been around long enough to see this is nothing but a blip.

    Meh.

    I'm going to be buying tomorrow. Long term we'll be back to normal. I'm not even reading the news cause I don't give a damn.
     
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    Been short a bunch of stuff since Jan (eg QQQ, MGK, EWG and stocks), just as a hedge to manage risk. But I'm long a whole lot more other stuff that I'm either locked into or still want for the long term.

    Looking at the various tech stocks since February, it's been brutal.. though they had a very fast runup after COVID. Some of these are getting into overpunished territory. ROKU fell 25% in one day this week, starting to see some overreactions on already beaten down stocks. Fear is ruling things now though so fundamentals won't matter until that changes a bit.
     
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  11. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    I am.

    I am actually using a separate account to short crypto so if there is a flash move against me, most of my funds are safe. I also regularly transfer profits out into another account. I just don't trust the volatility of crypto, so i'm keeping it on a very tight leash in terms of my exposure.
     
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    I've shorted some currencies. Switched to using trend followers and sure enough here they come.
    Shorted the AUDUSD GPBCAD GPBJPY yesterday. Fell so fast i could'nt get to all accounts.
    Staying away from crypto and stocks, didn't get a chance to enter and have enough disciplin to not chase the market....most times.
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  13. Sackie

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    Shorting US stocks, my return over the last few months ranges from 50% lowest to over 100% return. I'm not even looking at real estate at the moment. I'm using a small amount of leverage, approx 20%. .


    Risk level for me started at moderate and is now low-moderate.

    Lost a bit on currency trading as become too eratic for me , probably around 220k. Got too greedy with lot size lol.

    Purely shorting equities now.
     
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    Shorting commodities? I don't know many that are down. They are all going parabolic. Are you on the intraday time frames?
     
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    lol was thinking equities (as per my earlier posts in this thread) but commodities was on my mind! Mostly shorting tech and believe it or not.. crypto. I swore i wouldn't touch that stuff...but..
     
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    Thank god. I wasn't going to say it. It's your money, but shorting commodities would be burning money atm. Phew. I have made a few quid shorting the DAX lately as well. Big moves happening. Good luck!
     
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    I was watching the DAX, yeah some moves are crazy. I got greedy with currency :oops: and was doing too large lot sizes. We lost actually closer to 260k. Maybe a bit less. One time I typed in the wrong lot size (realised it a few mins later) with no SL and lost 10k in a few minutes lol. I got brazen from my fortunes in the stock market during covid.

    My shorting of mostly US stocks since late last years till now.. has been... spectacular tbh. Its insane the kinds of money you can make (and lose) in such a short period of time. We (business partner and I) started with around...in total... i think just over 3mil. We are give or take around 7m plus atm.

    Funny thing is, I never had the risk tolerance for stocks....until COVID showed me what was possible. COVID has been a disaster for so many, but also a blessing for many.
     
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    What are you shorting?

    You watching the commodities that Russia export? Oil, gas, wheat, nickel, palladium? When things settle down in that part of the world, shorting those commodities seems a smart play
     
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    See my posts above. Not commodities. Equities.
     
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    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    DJIA lost 2.3%

    NASDAQ lost 3.6%

    I've added another 400k to my US shorts.

    Brace yourselves for today lads.




     
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