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France Attack dozens dead.

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  1. Leo2413

    Leo2413 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    So sad. Say a prayer for the families. The world has really gone mad. Reported 73 dead already. Very sad. Europe is really in big trouble.
     
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    Becoming a weekly thing (in the western world) unfortunately.
    Not sure how a prayer is going to help though.
     
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    Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

    The time is always right to do what is right.

    The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.

    I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear.

    Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?

    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

    Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

    Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase.

    I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

    Martin Luther King
     
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    The other side said their prayers as well no doubt.
     
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  5. Leo2413

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    I don't blame Britain for wanting to break free and take control of their borders and immigration.
     
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  7. Leo2413

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    Not looking for a debate on these issues as its pointless, just really another sad day.

    I don't see anything wrong with offering prayers for the families anyway.

    My wish would be for world peace.
     
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    We can agree on the wish for world peace.

    However, the belief in a higher being and people's willingness to die for it is what's causing at least some of these attacks. So I see the payer as somewhat fighting fire with fire. People are obviously free to believe in whatever they choose to, but their actions resulting from those beliefs should never harm others, which often isn't the case.

    About the immigration, it is happening more in counrties that have colonised other contries in the past. And a lot of the time, the attackers actually have EU citizenship, so border control would not help at all.
     
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    I just read this post, did not even realise this had happened, tragic.
     
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    There have been many warnings about Mediterranean attacks leading up to summer, tragic that this has eventuated. Security around tourists areas has noticeably increased here in Barcelona this year, & many arrests made.

    Britain already has full control over its borders and immigration... Britain is not a part of the Schengen passport free area in Europe. There have been no attacks from EU citizens on Britain, the threat in the UK does not come primarily from EU citizens but from local radicalized Britons themselves, Brexit makes no difference to that.
     
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    It is devastating to read yet another news of a terror attack. France has had a terrible toll in the past few months, it is absolutely horrific. Very very sad, but unfortunately I don't see a way to stop these attacks. Travelling to Europe is actually getting a bit scary.
     
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  12. Leo2413

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    I agree. We are planning to go to London next month and I'd be lying if I said 'terrorism' isn't on my mind and we definitely will be as vigilant as we can be while there. Can't deny its a real threat.
     
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    That's the thing, there is a sense of it could happen anywhere, anytime and through any form. Of course capital cities are always going to be a bigger target, but as can been seen from this latest attack in Nice, it can also hit places of secondary importance.
     
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    So true. Soft targets seem to be the trend now ...Just insane what happening all around us isn't it..
     
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    Indeed mate, insane how things are shaping up .
     
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    Not personal of course Leo, but the whole 'say a prayer' thing irks the **** out of me. That garbage is why we are in this mess.

    I'm devastated by this, even without personal loss. I feel for the poor people and wish there was something I could do other than share my sadness.

    I know Nice well. I know that promenade. I've walked on it with my small children who don't need to know what sort of f****d up people share this world with us. It could be any of us.

    Atrocities happen in the world every day, in Iraq, Syria, and so on. But that doesn't make a relatable loss any less significant.

    F**k prayers. How can we actually help? Sadly, this is human history. We kill each other because we are stupid in many, many ways.
     
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    @Bran not taken personally at all mate

    I sense your frustration and I share the same sentiments.
     
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    Unfortunately, a religious death cult will wreak havoc wherever its adherents are - assuming this event is another example. We can do the opposite, heal and bless, but we should also preempt, apprehend and detain these fanatics. At the extreme and to avert innocent fatalities, failing rehabilitation and re-education of the fanatics they should be taken out.
     
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    The daughter of a close relative was there. Not in the thick of things but she heard shots and saw hundreds of people run towards her and decided to run as well. A kindly French women let her and about 20 others hide in her apartment. Police wouldn't let's them leave for 4 hours and she was out of contact for 6 hours. Her mum was almost in a panic. Finally she posted on FB that she was OK.

    She sadness of this, of all the problems around the world. Words fail me.
     
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    What about, in our thoughts?

    I have no problem with in our prayers or in our thoughts.

    I'm not very religious myself, but the sentiment of both sayings is the same to me.

    We are not in this mess because of prayers. We are in this mess because of selfish hatred. Religion is a muse.
     
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