NSW First home : Need opinion on House on Stumps

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  1. Vishh

    Vishh Well-Known Member

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    Hi All,

    A property we are interested going to auction and we are participating.
    House is on Stumps.3rd pic indicates partially on stumps probably. We dont know whether it is good or have any issues in 5-10 years?

    Checked with couple of pest and building inspection guys. They wont check health of stump nor they go under to see any possible issues.
    Any recommendation on how to approach the situation is appreciated.

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    Thanks,
    Vish
     
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  2. Lindsay_W

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    How old is the house already, looks older than 5 - 10 years to me.
     
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  3. Vishh

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    House is built during 1960's. What I meant was any possible issues with Stumping which will prevent us from living in same house for next 5-10 years.
     
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    Few things:

    Anyone for dibs?

    Place marbles on timber or vinyl floor to see if marbles roll on their own, indicating unlevel floor.

    Pool balls can also be used.

    Place a straight edge on floor with a level on top to check floor level,

    Any creeky noises from floor as you walk through the house.

    Don a pair of overalls, grab a torch and go under the house to check the stumps (their technical name is "isolated pier').
     
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    House may be haunted if marbles roll, you hear creaks or unexplainable rattling of chains. :eek:
     
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    What if you hear screams?
     
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    They'd be moans.
     
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  8. wylie

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    Why on earth wouldn't a building or pest inspector get under there and take a look? I'd find a better building or pest inspector.

    Unless there is something wrong, the piers are failing, or there are termites making their way up those posts, I cannot see what you should be worried about.
     
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    Seemed to me like they are asking me for a more detailed and some other inspection.Structural?
    They mentioned area is not accessible and outside their scope! The usual disclaimers.

    Will it be easy to repair those stumpings if there are some issues ?
     
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    Thanks. I will try to do this. But dont remember any creeky noises.
     
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    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    That is a cop out. It's not got a lot of room, but there's room to get in there with a torch. I'd ask another building inspector... send a photo so they can make a call before getting there and wasting your time.
     
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    I agree completely. There’s plenty of room to get the subfloor checked before you purchase. Get another (shorter) P&B inspector. A young apprentice with his iPhone or an ex-Jockey is ideal for this crawl space.
     
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    Huh? How can you see if there's a mud trail if you don't go under the house?
     
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    Just looking at the levels and for a house in that age range if you sorted out the lattice then it looks solid..
    The only downside will be the internal may be quite different,as everyone has said just buy some paper overalls mask up go look for yourself at the posts and any termite white ants tracks,good luck with the auction plus the free gate on the side of the house..imho..
     
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    Shorter?

    You think someone will walk under there?
     
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    It's their job!
     
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    We've bought houses much lower to the ground & Hubby will always crawl under.
     
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    That was the point i was 'trying' to make... being shorter doesn't matter.
     
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    Interesting!
    Does it make any difference living in a house built on stumps verus concrete slabs. I heard house on stumps can make some noises and if children are running around, everyone in the house can feel.
    I live on apartment, so have no idea. Going to auction this weekend. So in dilemma whether to reconduct building inspection again to check the stumps.
    But do we find any old houses in Sydney whcih is built on concrete slab?
     
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  20. The Y-man

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    There's pluses and minuses. For instance retrofitting underfloor ducted heating is impossible on slabs. Also consider plumbing etc.

    Noise can def be more of an issue on stumps - esp if said kids also play drums.

    The Y-man
     
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