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  1. Lizzie

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    "Professor Moghtaderi's equipment condenses pure water out of thin air, and then runs an electrical current through the water (H20) to split it into its constituent parts of two hydrogen molecules and one oxygen molecule.

    All of this is done with solar energy, justifying its description as "green hydrogen"."

    Bravo - now hopefully the government will get behind this research and develop it further in Australia (not holding my breath). We could become the world leaders in green energy with a fraction of the support fossil fuels receive

    Newcastle University researchers turning hydrogen theory into clean energy practice
     
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    As a person who has a reasonable holding of shares in "new age" materials (lithium, rare earths etc) and companies such as Pacific Hydro (before they were bought out) I have watched this space for a long time. My view is that hydrogen will be the future for long distance heavy transport while electric will fill the local delivery and much of the domestic vehicle arena. Unfortunately "breakthroughs" in many technologies require a billion+ dollars and 10 years to get to the start of commercialisation.
     
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    Private industry is willing to invest ... simply needs the government to put a directional foundation in place, and a bit of incentive never hurts
     
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    lt sounds something like some of the cars and lawn mowers running on water .
    There was a guy on aca a few wks back had a solar wind plan for the whole country , which of course is all we need anyway and we have plenty of so l dunno what the bloody drama is except we have a gov in denial and just wanting coal money and a people that mostly couldn't giva **** , it's just damn sad. Anyway this guy wish l could remember his name built a sort of model for the country. l mean this is all old news old stuff there's countries using it it's been round for yrs but his model and ideas were perfect for Australia . Poor bugger was about to tackle the Gov with it next but sadly they won't even wanna know anyway.
     
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    There is enough momentum for EVs and technology and pricing has progressed to the point it is now mainstream.

    Would love to see more done with plastics. We produce too much single use. Would love to see significant breakthroughs in that space.

    Aquaponics I find interesting
     
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    Same here the plastics thing is just a bloody disgrace, even in our super markets alone, just one tiny area compared. lt's gotta stop.
     
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    I heard a sobering quote the other day, I'll see if I can find a link to back it up, but it said something along the lines of that since we invented plastic we have created over 9 billion tons of it, ALL of which still exists.

    EDITED to add link, so link is 3 years old but at the time states over 8 billion tons of plastic had been made in the last 60 yeas, over 6 billion tons of it is waste.

    A whopping 91% of plastic isn't recycled
     
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    Awful and incredibly sad, as the ability is there ... plastics are made from fossil fuels, so why can't they be broken down into their base substances again and used as fuel? They can, but governments don't seem to be embrace the concept.

    I'm not anti-plastic ... it's a damn handy product ... but we need to put more emphasis on it's circle of use.

    Personally, for single use bags - like for doggie doodoo on our walks, or in the compost bucket, I use plant based bags - either potato or corn starch. They break down within days once in the outside compost bin. Can't understand why they are used more
     
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    Yeah, we have 3x Great Danes so get through a LOT of poo bags, we bulk buy them from Oh Crap Dog Poop Bags® - Australia's No1 Non Plastic Poop Bag
     
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    Yeah l've seen some of that . l mean at least it's something and it's great to see but we need a lot more bang behind it fast.
    We've basically got 25million people that mostly just couldn't care less and a gov that hooks up with the likes of Trump that they vote for, it just needs so much more to make a difference as fast as we can and need too.
    Our bloody commercial channels should be running global warming and awareness ads too, especially about this Governments idea and lack of, channel 0 does and the ABC tries but again that only gets to a handful of people but most of those just put it down to alternative .
    This damn country needs to be shell shocked. They don't hesitate brainwashing us about car accidents or all the things they wanna fine and threaten us about , but on these things, nothing. Pretty well says it all.
     
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    l know , saw on that show lizzie mentioned to top that of , according to them most of the plastic they make crap out of for some strange reason can't even be recycled - so why the hell are they still even making things with that plastic then if that's the case.
     
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    Scomo announced a "new" gas fire electricity plant for the Hunter and absolutely got canned on social media today ... there are so many ready to go, transition options in the pipeline (excuse the pun) such as concentrated solar, solar produced hydrogen and baseload heat bricks, developed by the CSIRO and Newcastle Uni, that would kill for taxpayer backing.

    Overseas countries are showing Ken interest on the above but or own stoopid government is fixated on fossils.

    Even BP announced, earlier this week, they believe fossils will be obsolete within 20 years
     
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    The composition changes - from a practical sense, recycling usually means heating it and melting it to form new shapes. As you do this, you lose some of the strength and elasticity.

    We are also having other BIG issues from tiny particles of plastic at the moment. We get fleecewear made from spun recycled plastic (eg polartec) which pills in the washing machine as the fabric deteriorate. Unfortunately it turns into plastic nano-particles which cannot be filtered with our normal sewage filtering systems or settling ponds (they remain suspended).

    They get picked up by natures super filters - shellfish/molluscs.
    These are eaten by fish (and humans), and humans eat the fish. The nano-particles build up in density along the food chain.... and .... well we are still investigating the impact of plastic particles running through your arteries, brain, heart, liver.....

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    I have read that nano particles crossing the blood brain barrier, usually in those with high blood pressure, is linked to increasing dementia rates

    The particles can not only be found via the food chain, but is also deliberately added to some foods in manufacturing, to "improve" mouth feel ... ie Minties
     
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    Seems we’re hell bent on the destruction of our own species, one way or another.
     
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    Sadly, many humans don't seem to realise we are dependent of the health of our Earth. Mother Earth will continue on merrily without us, but we can't exist without her health, despite how important we think we are
     
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    That's fantastic to hear of all those things happening lizzie. But yeah , what's his solution, gas , wth is bloody renewable about gas it's just swapping taring the country up for one bloody fuel, to another.
    Tell ya what l'm in The Great Ocean area there's rigs out in the ocean and pipes now cris crossing the whole bloody west of the state. They built a gas fired elec plant about 150k away from me and dug half the bloody state up , prime farmland and ocean., to do it. And they've planted 100s of these new ugly bloody monster power poles running 100s of k across the country side.
    Nothing clean or renewable about those things it's no better than coal .
    His Gov doesn't wanna know , they're even trying to stretch out our already pathetic renewable target a couple more decades now, just today. Damn glad to hear he copped a bagging over it anyway, cringed when l heard it on the news this morning. He's made a laughing stock out of Australia.

    ps , sorry to be moaning on your thread it should be fill with great Australian news and developments and our country right behind them as ya say.
     
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