ETF Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) 2016

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  1. Hodor

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    Did a little shopping today, VGS @ 54.24.

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    Just picked a few random Vanguard ETF's for 12 months

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    Interesting, I would have thought VGS would be somewhere between VEU and VTS
     
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    [copy of question I wrote in the LICs thread. Mods, please delete from either if inappropriate to double up!]

    I've done no real DD on stocks or LICs - been focussed on property - but I'd love to buy when others are worried (a la Buffett).
    I assume the advice here would be "don't jump now without DD"... but if you were, taking into account the next day or so's volatility and possible pickups, what would you do assuming no SMSF but some cash?
     
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    Looking at investment trends for 2017. might be time to start investing in VGE
     
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    I've been putting funds into VEU of late
     
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    I bought into IJU and IJR with appropriate timing :D

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    Hmmm...

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    I couldn't find that same graph on their website. I read this however;

    "In our SPA3ETF research we have used 1.6:1 leverage"

    Does anyone or has anyone here used these products from share wealth systems?

    All seems a big worry to me.
     
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    @Hodor, you seem to be doing a lot of worrying lately:). I think the investing bug's got you bad.

    Gary Stone's SPA systems have been around for ages. They are heavily based on technical analysis which is what I used to trade years ago. I attended and / or studied courses by Radge, Guppy, Bedford, Tate, Stone, Securities Institute and numerous others.

    Better make sure you've got the right sort of psychological makeup if you're going start trading or you'll end up a nervous wreck. Cutting losses short is absolutely paramount, no ifs or buts! And at times there can be multiple losses in a row before you catch a trending winner.

    Stone's systems are some of the better ones out there. From memory they're medium term trading systems. But for a variety of reasons most traders tend to fail with psychology a big factor.

    In fact I think the best strategy to succeed as a trader is to write a book about it (people automatically think you're a guru), run courses and sell a trading system:rolleyes:.
     
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    Thanks @austing. Does this apply to VGS vs VTS? With VGS being domiciled in Australia?

    I have not looked into international ETFs (yet) and have wondered about going down the VGS vs VTS + VEU route.
     
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    Yes, VGS is local. I favour VGS in part due to the reasons stated in the article. There's a little more diversification with VTS + VEU (addition of US small caps and emerging markets from memory) but this is just tinkering around the edges. VGS keeps things nice and simple which for me is an important criteria.
     
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    Exchange trade funds to over take listed investment companies by 2018

    Exchange traded funds (ETFs) are poised to overtake listed investment companies as the most popular pooled investment option on the ASX within two years if current trends persist.

    ASX data for November shows that the value of ETFs rose by 17 per cent to $24.5 billion, while the value of listed investment companies rose just 2.3 per cent to $30.5 billion.

    Experts point to the increasing sophistication of investors, regulatory change, growing numbers of ETF strategies available at low cost and the rise of the self-managed super fund as among the key forces driving ETF fund flows.

    Listed investment companies, which have a long history of performing for retail funds, charge comparatively higher fees and can trade at a premium or a discount to underlying value, which can be frustrating for investors.....continues
     
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    Why all of the sudden everything is going up?
     
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    "Trump rally" ?
     
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