English as a second or third language???

Discussion in 'Living Room' started by Ed Barton, 10th Sep, 2017.

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Is English your first language?

  1. Aussie, Aussie all the way

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  2. My English is not perfect

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  3. My English is pretty crap

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  4. I don't speak English. Not a word.

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  1. Ed Barton

    Ed Barton Well-Known Member

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    What are members English backgrounds?

    The posts here display baddy English. Is that because of language, illiteracy or laziness?

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  2. Joynz

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    Most likely due to typing on an iPad or iPhone.

    'Autocorrect' is somewhat of an oxymoron with these devices.
     
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  3. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't think that the education system is putting the same emphasis on spelling and grammar as was done many years ago. Being a member of an older generation, I was drilled in grammar and spelling almost mercilessly. But I'm seeing terrible examples of grammar using and spelling coming from many younger people. While the use of phones may contribute towards this, there is a lot more. I remember some terrible examples of grammar usage hand written by a teacher on my daughter's homework assignment many years ago. It's just not emphasised the way it was once.
     
  4. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Kids lurn reiding un' rightin' from kindie, well before they get a fone. It's purely a failing of the edumucation cistern which teeches fonetic speling not rote and rulz.

    My son had extreme difficulty when he was being taught phonetic spelling, '...there are rules, why can't they follow the rules? Spelling words that way is wrong'. He struggles with the creative stuff.
     
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  5. Gockie

    Gockie Life is good ☺️ Premium Member

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    On this forum I mostly want to see the content written in paragraphs and logically formatted/laid out. Content is very hard to read if it's all in 1 huge block with no spaces, to the extent that I won't attempt to read it if I see a wall of text.
     
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    Being born an Aussie doesn't automatically mean you can write/communicate in English better than a migrant or a foreigner.

    If you are trained in English or learnt it a school, you are pretty much guaranteed to write better English than most punters i would think.

    Add to that, on an internet forum, not many would really care if their sentences are perfect. It's not like you're writing a CV that needs to be pretty impeccable or writing a formal letter.
     
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  7. Ed Barton

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    I get that. But the English on this forum is terrible. Some I can recognise as Chinglish, while a lot seems to be literacy issues. Tell me our schooling is not that bad?
     
  8. Iamnumber5

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    Those who can't defferentiate between "your" and "you're", "there" and "their", are surprisingly people who use English as "there" first language.
     
  9. paulF

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    Can't argue with how bad schooling in OZ is compared to other countries, thats' for sure!
     
  10. Sackie

    Sackie Well-Known Member

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    Students in Oz aren't that serious about their studies compared to many countries in Asia.
     
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  11. Trainee

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    Some people spell "defferently".
     
  12. Laken

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    Personally, the post title, the poll and first post have little to do with each other. Can I assume your only language is English? I guess my point being, 'dont assume'.
     
  13. EN710

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    English is second language for me. My grammar is pretty crap in conversation and worse when nervous (phone interview!! :oops:).

    Written english is not too bad as long as it's not long sentences... usually read a bit weird, missing some 's' and/or use the wrong tense here and there. :rolleyes:

    Sms language, average. I can do rotfl, lol, omfg, yolo, wtf, wth, imo, etc
     
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    I have been waiting for someone to pick that up. LOL

    To be honest English is my second language and it's bad.. All this time I have been relying on spell check. I guess my auto-correct was set on other language.
     
  15. Angel

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    Where I work the teachers and the curriculum (Australian Standard these days) are both great. The majority of families are great. What you see standing out in your face is the lack of value that too many Aussies place on education these days.

    Thank Julia Gillard when she was Education Minister for her passion to improve education standards across Australia. As a result the curriculum is now heavily embedded with Literacy and Numeracy. Schools will consciously teach to Naplan standards now that there is public accountability on the Net.

    I am so English-speaking! My father's family owned a pub in Barcaldine back in the days of the foundation of the Labour Movement and my husband's sister recently traced a grandparent to a senior government officer who regularly socialised with the Wentworths and the Macquaries. Unfortunately he gambled away his very substantial land holdings to the east of Vauclause House.
     
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