Duplex/Dual Occ in Brisbane BCC

Just looking on Realestate.com and noticed this (these) properties listed for rent near one of my IP's:

37A Stanley Terrace Wynnum Qld 4178 - House for Rent #422712870 - realestate.com.au

37B Stanley Terrace Wynnum Qld 4178 - House for Rent #422712874 - realestate.com.au

I presume its a dual occupancy. My PM confirmed that these have just been built, but I was of the opinion that these were not allowed?

Can someone more knowledgeable on the topic please advise?

Thanks,

JK

 

@RPI is up to date on this.

 

Correct. There was a loophole we find and had a large number put through but the loophole was closed late last year. I think there is another loophole and we are working on that at present. We have a court appearance late this month so will be able to update after that.

It's not unlawful to build a house with a grannyflat or secondary dwelling that does not exceed 80m2. But it needs to be occupied by a single household.

Possible this house used the same loophole, more likely they just are renting it out. Thousands do. When they get caught we then have to got through P&E Court to see if can get use regularised.

 

Loophole looks firmly shut. Have been trying to find an angle but not having any joy.

 

Hi JK

It looks like approval was obtained for a house (4 bedrooms). See attached plans.

Presumably after construction/building approval, they added a new wall to separate the "living"/"dining" rooms, turned the "laundry" into a bathroom and added a second kitchen to the "living room", in order to create a 3 bedroom unit, and a 1 bed unit which they are renting out separately. You can clearly see this in the adds for the 2 units.

37A Stanley Terrace, Wynnum QLD 4178 - House For Rent - $420
https://www.allhomes.com.au/ah/qld/...y-terrace-wynnum-inner-brisbane/1317471891411

Great source of rental income but all illegal/unlawful in my opinion so I wouldn't recommend doing something similar. When Council finds out, they will receive a show cause notice and will be forced to stop renting the units out separately.

LJW

 

Highly unlikely that this has approval.

 

What's the distinction between a multiple occupancy and a rooming rental? why couldn't the landlord rent out the 1 br unit under a room rental agreement?

 

2 internal kitchens is a sticking point.
Also voiding of insurances etc if not using lawfully.

 

A rooming agreement can specify certain facilities as shared or exclusive. If a toilet can be for the exclusive use of one guest then so can a hot plate.

Do kitchens even require approval? According to the BCC website "Renovations only involving internal works, are unlikely to require planning approval". Kitchens are internal.

 

Money.

 

Risk V Reward.... too much risk

 

How exactly would you lose everything?

 

Wasnt on the original DA submitted to council.

If council order remediation works to return the house to the original DA.

Fire caused by second kitchen voiding your insurance.

Alot of risk to take on for $2-300 a week.

 

If that were the determining factor all renovations would be illegal without planning approval. Why does the BCC website say "Renovations only involving internal works, are unlikely to require planning approval"?

 

It's not a renovation if you are building a brand new house and going outside the scope of your DA/CC.

Unlikely =/= never needed.

 

Rooming Accommodation allows for multiple kitchens.

 

How many can you have?

Okay, what are your thoughts on putting in a kitchen contrary to the CC/DA