Dual key first investment- would love some insight on what to do next?

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  1. jai collier

    jai collier Well-Known Member

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    Hi there im jai collier, new to this forum and seeking some advice from fellow investors in australia.

    i built a dual key rental property 3 years ago now has been rented for about 2 and a half years on the sunshine coast in landsborough Qld.

    done plenty of research before, used a architect to design and build it, research on landsborough as a investment, used good brokers and everything for the finance ect ect.

    heres the figures- 297k for the build, 230k for the land (purchased in 2018 i believe) 20k government first home buyers grant 15k land rebait wich i took off the build contract was 312k originally, i put 40k in for the deposit, & mortgage is currently sitting at 470k.

    Moved in for a while first then rented out, 2 or so years on its now renting out for 880$ a week 420 for small side, 460 for big side so making great returns! Im currently paying 2000$ (was 2400$ before refinancing to lower interest rate) been on P&I whole time, have payed the loan down a fair bit roughly 40k. - so its 2000$ monthly mortgage and im receiving 3500$ rent - take out real estate fees and rates 3000$.
    So 1000$ passive income a month already.

    now the only problem i have had with this first build/ purchase is the banks valuing it to release equity, i have made equity on it as its been valued at around 630k, this was a while back but i have had real estate agents value it at 925k!! Thats a 300k difference in the banks value and the real estates, the town landsborough is going up and its in a hot spot on the sunshine coast so theres simular 4 bedroom propertys (not dual keys) selling for over 800-850k at the moment.

    I have heard duel keys are hard for the banks to value but i just want some info from others to see if dual keys are worth continuing doing as the cashflows GREAT, but seems to be a issue with banks valuing.
    I have enough equity atm roughly 200k for more but technically if i sell i could have 400-600k?
    My next move i was thinking of going for a commercial property but i will see, maybe even sell & could have a solid deposit for a commercial property? Or even go for another normal 4 bedroom house/build.

    any advice would be greatly appreciated and thankyou very much for your time reading all, & of-course any questions others have id be happy to answer myself
     
  2. Rolf Latham

    Rolf Latham Inciteful (sic) Staff Member Business Plus Member

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    Comparable sales are the key issue for valuations in most places

    Not a common product so valued more like 6 bed house with large shed rather than an attached duplex

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    Doesn't it really depend on whether you want/need equity or cashflow to continue your investing?

    Personally I think equity is more important when you're starting out and accumulating properties, and then cashflow for later on when you want to get the best yield from your asset base.
     
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    Thanks rolf yes it is a different type of property i guess, i was thinking of strata titling it and turning into 2 titles, but i believe its not cheap to do
     
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    Yep, a common strategy for many of our clients is once they have completed their acquisition phase(s), they build granny flats using left over equity.

    160 k investment for min 400 a week rent is a good $ for $ return

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  6. jai collier

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    Yeah im thinking my next one i focus on equity and not cashflow
     
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    They lied...

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  8. jai collier

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    they would of lied a bit but there is property's on the sunshine coast and all around here selling for around this price, due to the sunshine coast being a hot spot during covid
     
  9. The Y-man

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    Dual keyed? Ironically, it could be more valuable then to declare it a "normal house".


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  10. jai collier

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    I dont quite know what you mean sorry haha
     
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    Sorry I meant are the similar sales for dual keyed properties or normal houses?

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    I see its for normal houses, but even old houses are selling for 8-900’s here, i havent even looked at dual key sales here actually so thats good advice i should be
     

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