Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community

Downlight install (who patches up ceiling)?

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by bythebay, 17th Dec, 2015.

  1. bythebay

    bythebay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    160
    Location:
    By the bay
    Hi guys

    Trying to replace existing lights in middle of room with couple downlights spread across the ceiling.

    Understand I need to get electrician to do this.

    When the existing light is removed, there will be a hole in the ceiling, is this generally considered part of the electrician's job to patch up?

    Thanks
     
  2. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,931
    Location:
    Brisbane
    No. This is something a handyman or plasterer will do, completely not part of electrician's job.
     
  3. rhinsor

    rhinsor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    437
    Location:
    Perth
    Handyman or do it yourself, it is very easy.
     
  4. Johnny Cashflow

    Johnny Cashflow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    29th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    739
    Location:
    SA
    Could have askedelectrician to put a downlight there then you wouldn't have to patch anything.

    But it's not hard to fix just need to plug the hole with something from the top and than fill it with some "poly filler" or "smooth coat filler" from
    Bunnings, let it dry, sand it and reapply it then sand again. Let it dry and paint it with ceiling white so it blends in with rest of the ceiling. Should be some videos online. Good luck
     
  5. Ian Macleod

    Ian Macleod Active Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    17th Dec, 2015
    Posts:
    27
    Location:
    NSW
    If filling a hole in the ceiling is not something you are familiar with, try youtube
    here's a start
    Looks like this guy has a bigger job than you but you'll get the idea.
     
    Jess Peletier likes this.
  6. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,773
    Location:
    Perth WA
    I have to do this too - I'm going to have a shot myself :)
     
  7. melbournian

    melbournian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2nd Sep, 2015
    Posts:
    1,324
    Location:
    melbourne
    u can patch it yourself. u can buy a $3 pre patch metal base and then just top coat readymade plaster for $8 and $1 of sandpaper. With these holes you obviously got to paint them when you are finish. best to give all the patching in one go if holes are needed. ceiling is hard to paint. upload_2015-12-17_14-37-20.png upload_2015-12-17_14-37-46.png upload_2015-12-17_14-38-16.png
     
  8. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,773
    Location:
    Perth WA
    Do you have a link to these pre patch metal base please?
     
  9. melbournian

    melbournian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    2nd Sep, 2015
    Posts:
    1,324
    Location:
    melbourne
    there's the link jess. u can get them at masters and bunnings. for relatively small to medium holes. more useful for ceiling holes.

    Pfeiffer 15cm Plaster Repair Wall Patch
     
  10. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,773
    Location:
    Perth WA
    Perfect, thank you! :)
     
    melbournian likes this.
  11. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,381
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    Theres more than 13 ways to skin a cat...but to patch melbs hole I'd do it differently..
    The tape I've never used but looks handy and easier than paper tape if you haven't used it. But Only thing it may not have the strength so I wouldn't use it for anything bigger, or just add some extra screws

    When patching to make it a bit easier and stop the new piece moving when setting a few extra screws will help -see pic
    _20151217_152245.JPG
    A block of timber will do,
    Put timber inside the wall and screw it in the existing gyprock first. It will then give you something to fix the new piece too.;)
     
  12. dabbler

    dabbler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,681
    Location:
    Sid en e - olympic city
    You can ask the electrician, they may or may not do it, but you will be paying them an electricians rate for something simple, if it is an IP, they may just whack something there temp so no hole if you ask, get someone else to finish properly later when re painting cieling
     
  13. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,558
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    Put it back on the tenant ;) seems like the tenant can be made to wear everything else (unless challenged at VCAT).
     
  14. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,381
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    Wow.... Just watched that you tube vid... That guy must be a butcher :eek:

    You want to do a bit more prep than that. I didn't watch all of it and it probably would do the job but there are ways to do it without using so much mud! And a touch more professional!

    Like anything its the prep work.
    That job still had damaged bruised gyprock and torn paper. Start off by cutting a bigger hole with a stanley knife back to good gyprock. For that job cut a nice square, then put in a square piece of gyprock. The closet you get the fill piece of gyprock the less plaster you'll need.
     
  15. lightbulbmoment

    lightbulbmoment Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    21st Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    279
    Location:
    nsw
    The downlight will (nearly certain) be a 90mm
    Diameter hole so get a holesaw cut out a new bit of gyprock and place up with some filler.