Donald Trump for President..

Discussion in 'Politics' started by willair, 23rd Jul, 2015.

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    Oh dear, Vanity Fair.... left biased again

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    Not unbiased according to the same source you have just quoted
    Fox News Live TV
     
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    yes of course they are conservative, however did you read the list of journos that BV posted? who are on fox and interviewed regularly.......its a mixture of left and right, that is the difference. Facts reported on both sides.
     
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    The same story was reported across a lot of media. You reject anything which is not Fox News TV. If it's reported in Vanity Fair the source is biased. You will only believe anything which is on one broadcaster.

    But the news isn't anti Trump. It's just about a request which has been issued. That's factual events.

    The Dems have requested info from Deutsche Bank - but it's a request only, with no power of enforcement. I doubt anything will come of it.
     
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    If Trump picked his nose the left mainstream media will have this event as a feature on front page, and probably link it to some sort of mental illness and have at least 3 shrinks to analyse it.

    Seriously left mainstream media have been reporting on all sorts of rubbish, without any substance/evidence. Cooper spends days analysing why Trump sacked Comey, who cares, he was crapola at his job and the Dems wanted him gone 2 weeks prior to the sacking, but now they want him back. How does that work??? Seriously funny
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    Have you been over to Fox and watched Hannity's version of events?

    Basically; Seth was murdered a few days after contact with Wiki leaks. Shot in the back.

    It was called a robbery/mugging murder, but he still had his watch, wallet, cash and phone.

    It is a justified question to be asked, based on the above.

    Hannity in his monologue last night stated he was suspending his investigation for now - out of respect for the family, but he is still adamant that there is more behind it...sorta like Trump/Russia collusion? :p

    "Rod Wheeler, a private investigator associated with Rich’s family told a Fox News affiliate in Washington that there was evidence that proved the alleged contact between Rich and WikiLeaks. Wheeler also suggested that the Metropolitan Police Department attempted to cover up the nature of Rich’s death on behalf of the DNC, which the police department denied."

    “Congress, investigate Seth Rich Murder,” Hannity tweeted on Sunday. “If Seth was wiki source, no Trump/Russia collusion.”

    “Snowflakes with anger issues and impulse control issues. U must believe the “robbery” gone bad story,” another tweet ;from Hannity read.

    Other Fox News personalities helped promote the baseless conspiracy, including Fox News contributor Geraldo Rivera who tweeted, “1) #SethRich shot in back(2)worked for #DNC which, (3)screwed @BernieSanders 4)#WIKILEAKS screwed DNC(5)Did #sethrich leak?(6)is it related?”


    Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-fox-news-seth-rich-story-about-2017-5#RYBU4XuBzebCkH4b.99
     
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    Just to quantify the quality of this "editorial" piece:

    "We hope it does not surprise you to learn that President Donald Trump has a Russia problem. Since even before he took the oath of office, serious questions were being asked about his campaign’s ties to the Kremlin, and what role the latter played in getting a man with zero political experience elected the leader of the free world."

    Um; maybe Vanity Fair missed it; but Trump won a free Democratic Election...where people:

    1. Run a Campaign to garner votes to get selected as the Primary Candidate...it's highly publicised and scrutinised to death,
    2. Another year of more campaigning and vote-trawling, laying out their Agenda, more high scrutiny and discussion across the Country by all,
    3. Then they have an Election where everyone can vote (or not vote as is the case in the USA),
    4. Votes are counted and a winner declared, based on the Electoral College system of voting; that has been in place forever.

    I didn't realise the Russians were allowed to vote?

    But anyway; back to this Bank thing;

    There have been a number of loans provided to Trump's organisation from all over the world; who'dathunk?

    The most pertinent transaction that anyone can throw mud at is one where a loan was secured to fund a project in Toronto - which Trump licensed the use of his Company's name. The loan is actually for the owners of the project. Jared Kushner helped to broker the loan, apparently. IMPEACH.

    Even if there was a direct link between Trump and a Russian Bank for a project back in North America...there is no "collusion" to rig an Election or other rubbish like that.

    It is merely a business transaction, with finance being obtained form wherever it is available...sorta like all of us here on PC.

    It is desperate Dems rubbish, because they got flogged and (still) cannot accept it.

    Move on folks; nothing to see here...Trump won the Election fair and square.
     
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    It is generally accepted that There was Russian interference in the lead up to the election, with the apparent aim of denigrating Hillary and boosting Trump's chances of winning. How effective it was will probably never be known.

    Where his lending comes from and why is very pertinent, especially in light of the fact that he refuses to provide his tax returns despite having said that he would.

    Time will tell.
     
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    Russians have been meddling in the Elections for years as it turns out.

    Hillary ruined her chances of winning on her own - (with the help of John Podesta's hacked email account - which wasn't actually hacked because he inadvertently gave out his account details to a spam email), which ultimately ended up with Wiki-Leaks.
    The leak to Wiki-Leaks has not been confirmed that it was "The Russians" who leaked it; at any stage so far;

    Here is how she did such a magnificent job of stuffing her Campaign;
    1. Emails and server, followed by destroying of evidence (already subpoena'd) both electronic (emails) and of hardware (phones and laptops).
    2. Lying under oath at the Congressional hearings, and then lying about lying, and then given a "free pass" by Comey and Lynch; which also cemented folks' distrust of the Washington Elite and Swamp....the view was that she got looked after by "The Club".
    3. Clinton Foundation scandal, which was also exposed in Peter Schwitzer's book; "Clinton Cash", and the docco that goes with it of the same name;

    4. "Deplorables and irredeemables" gaff - exposed her as the divisive and elitist snob she is...inspired a large number of Trump voters who were not overly committed, to become committed voters, and turned off an element of her own would-be voters.
    5. Had no Economic message; other than to basically follow-on with a 3rd Term of Obama - higher taxes, higher spending, shut down Coal mines (job losses), continue on with Obamacare - which was failing Bigly, more "open borders", no talk of cutting back on illegal border crossers, or refugees - actually had talked of increasing immigration, no talk of improved Trade Deals, no tax reform.
    These were some of the reasons why sooo many ended up voting for Trump - sick of the Elite Washington mob and "swamp" culture of the do-nothing Congress, etc, and a general "fed-upness" of the status quo.
    6. Did not connect with the Joe-Blogs in the street with her campaigning; avoided Press, avoided many Rallies and "meet and greets" a sign she is an Elitist snob. She was unpopular - but only a poofteenth more popular than Trumpster.
    7. Was arrogant; did not even bother Campaigning in three of the Dem's "safe States" - simply assumed she would win them. But Trump worked them much harder.
    http://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...tes-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin/93572020/
    8. Bernie Sanders - many folks believed he was railroaded out of the Primaries so she could run, but he was more popular (god knows why - he's a nutcase socialist).
     
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    I'm not embarrassed to express opinions etc here. I don't get upset if you disagree with them.

    Everyone is tired to death of listening to Entertainment industry Leftwing folks on twitter..

    But anyway; what I saw was Trump put his hand on the Montenegro PM's right arm, gave him a friendly slap on the back, and moved to stand beside the bloke...exaxtly like blokes do with their mates in the pub or wherever.

    I think that the vast majority of objective people would have seen the same - except the Trump haters; who are always looking for one scintilla of controversy wherever they can gouge it...standard stuff.

    Ho, Man! what venom.

    "Danger to the world!!"....Trump is in the Middle East trying to convene alliances for Trade for all which will benefit all participants, and trying to convene alliances to fight Terrorism. He is calling out these NATO spongers and leaners to cough up and pay their fair share...

    The only world in danger is the world of islamic terrorists.

    "Trump has transformed the USA into a laughing stock".....more like the never-ending outrage from the Dems, the protests, riots and violence from the Libs - who cannot accept this guy - are the causes of the laughter (and this is what the world is really laughing at).



     
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    Think of Rach, next time you hit that little golf ball.... just joking sort of:p
     
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