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  1. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    I had seen this video some time ago, and I was prompted to take a DNA test myself. Check the article and video- it's fascinating.
    Biased girl takes DNA test to reveal her ethnicity – the results bring her to tears

    The results were interesting- I had hoped that I had something non European in the results though. Even so, it's more widely spread around Europe than some of the other ones I've seen, even one of a cousin.
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    I did find a second cousin through this, one I had no idea had even existed.

    Various companies do this, and it doesn't need to be especially expensive.

    Through Ancestry® | Genealogy, Family Trees & Family History Records $150AUD- the one I did - although I can't get a link to ordering, as it takes me to my own test results
    Family Tree DNA - DNA Testing for Ancestry - Only $79 on special for $USD49
    MyHeritage DNA - Genealogy DNA tests; DNA testing for ethnicity - MyHeritage $USD79
     
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    I'd love someone to do a "who do you think you are" as they find out so much interesting stuff beyond the name and dates ... problem is I'm not famous enough. We do have some interesting pasts including, but not restricted to:

    Hubby descends from convicts transported for stealing a chicken and a hanky
    My gg-father was a merchant captain in the south seas
    My gggg-mother came out to NZ as a maid and married the lord
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    I've just come back to my family tree, and have spent some time on it, after a gap of some years.

    There's some fascinating stuff there. It's far easier now with the internet. You may well find a close relative who has done work in some detail- I found several. Ancestry.com has the facility to build a family tree, and to find details from other people who may have the same ancestors in their trees.

    There's lots of skeletons out there. There's some probably deliberate confusion about the marriage date of my very religious grandparents.

    There's an interesting will from the 1600s
     
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    How long did it take for the results to come back Geoff?

    Coincidently my in laws just ordered the test and will open the letter on Christmas Day for a surprise.

    I'd like to get the test done too.. Although the only ancestry I know of is Irish/Scottish, I have feeling I'm a mixed bag.
     
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    I am tempted to do one, but I would like one that sequences my entire genome. This information will be useful for medical reasons as we understand DNA more and more. Though I guess it's likely that this will become an essentially free test in the future.
    Still, I'd drop a few hundred dollars now if it did that and also gave me all my risk factors as well as the heritage thing above (though I doubt I'd be surprised there).
     
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    I'd love to do it to find more. When my dad died I started doing a lot of research as I wanted to find out more as he didn't know (he was orphaned).

    Turns out gggg grandfather is the Alfred Traeger who who invented the pedal powered radio for the first royal flying doctor service to use. As a result there's:
    - a monument / memorial or him in Balaclava, SA
    - a street named after him in Canberra
    - an AFL stadium named after him in NT
    - a picture of his design on our $20 notes.

    Tracing back further, there was an itinery of traegers coming by boat departing Hamburg arriving Port Adelaide in 1860 and managed to trace all the descendents since, down to me.
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    It was something like 6-8 weeks. The testing was done in the US- they send out the kit, and you get to spit into a tube.

    My wife can't produce saliva so we've just sent bach some cheek cells to Family Tree DNA.
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    The entire genome is humungous. I suspect you wouldn't have the time nor money to get that one done- but I don't know. This one just looks for a small set of markers. There are some more detailed ones available.
     
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    That's pretty cool.

    I've paid a bit extra on Ancestry.com to view records. I've found birth, death, marriage and transport records for a few. Even just electoral rolls for may parents and grandparents gives some interesting information.

    We were quite surprised to find a lot of records from Mexico, with beautifully written copperplate writing and ornate prose- sone of it very difficult to read, even for a Spanish spraker. My wife always knew that her grandmother was her grandfather's third wife. She didn't know that she was 15 when he was 35- though that's only evident from her birth certificate, not her marriage record.
     
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    Ive spent years, off and on, tracing my tree. ive spent many holidays traipsing through cemetaries. Even spent a month in Ireland tracing my tree.

    Ancestry.com is good, but you really have to be careful with the information as people just copy other people's mistakes. always go back to the source documents and verify for yourself.

    My favourite source is trove (national library digital resources). It's free, and there are all sorts of wonderful stories within old newspapers. Its where youll find much more than dates and names.
     
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    I was thinking about this. I wondered about German migration at that time, it's not something I had heard about- except vaguely that the Barossa Valley must have had a German settlement.

    I'd guessed that this must have involved the Gold Rush, given the date. But German migration was strong before that. For many years (1850 to 1914) Germany was the source of the largest non British immigrants.

    German settlement in Australia - Wikipedia

    Origins: History of immigration from Germany - Immigration Museum, Melbourne Australia

    However as a result of the wars traces of German origin in family and place names were hidden away, which may be a part of the reason I hadn't ever heard much.

    I've really enjoyed the incidental learning which has come about from this journey.
     
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    Am also a keen family historian who has just had a DNA result from Ancestry ... results were
    10% Asian [9% Central Asia, 1% East Asia], 34% Irish, 32% British. I knew I had an ancestor born in China 1840 and had ancestors in the British Army in India early 1800's. Somewhere along the line they must have married into the local population.
     
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    I might not be as well off as many investors on here, but I do actually have $1,000 needed to seqence an entire genome! ;)
    It also turns out that the entire genome would be less than 1Gb and since over 99% of it is identical across humans, you need less of 10Mb to have a lossless analysis of your DNA. However, ideally I'd prefer the entire 1Gb, just in case there's any genetic mutations in the 99% (though I'd think they'd test for it and then just disregard it if there isn't and include it if there is).
     
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    There was significant German migration to South Australia in particular. The little towns in the hills around Adelaide had many German settlers. A branch of my family moved from Germany to Upper Sturt/Crafers in the early 1840s. Hanhdorf is quite well known for it's German origins and is just down the road from Crafers. Another branch of my family lived in Blumberg in the Adelaide hills, which was renamed Birdwood following ww1. I know of at least 4 Property Chat members who have German ancestors who moved to SA. Not sure how common it was in other states.

    South Australian history is a little different to other states as we didnt have convicts. The state was built by free settlers who were encouraged to move here.
     
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    Cool.

    It serves me right for making assumptions when I don't actually know.
     
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    Haha.

    There's actually an interesting article on it here, though the cost they quote is US$2,900.
     
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    This is one that does a lot of the health dna ... a few friends have done it, and found it fantastic for what they may be susceptible to and hence they've made some healthier life changes.

    23andMe - DNA Genetic Testing & Analysis
     
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    There's a town in NSW which was called Germanton. It was renamed in 1915. Anybody who has driven from Melbourne to Sydney or Canberra up to a few years ago would recognise the town with a submarine- now called Holbrook.
     
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    Yes, but unfortunately it still doesn't do the entire genome. I'll really only consider doing it once they do that for a reasonable price, that way you won't have to repeat it again to get more information.
    I foresee that you'll be able to get access to open source programs that will allow you to upload your DNA details and it will then give you all sorts of different analyses.
    Another interesting thing in the article that I linked was risk factors in partners, getting both tested before having a child to see if there are any risk factors that are in common which could give a child a serious illness.
     
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    How do the DNA test for a religion?
     
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