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  1. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

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    I need to do some sussing out of someone,what's the best way to start looking at things? Its a relation that has been very slack and not helping out but has something going on or another agenda.

    Likely collecting some carers allowance likely plus good position for front runner of the will collection. But there's not much to get out of the will plus not sure of the relations mental state. But there's a business or two, plus potential other investments around.

    It's some good old family gossip and in house fighting :D but could be coming to a head with legal battle to follow, even if parties walk away with nothing.
     
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    If there's a lot of money at stake, sometimes hiring an actual PI becomes well worth it.
     
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    Going through a person's garbage bin will reveal volumes about that person. (NB. on collection night you get the lot).

    It's also amazing what perfectly good food people throw out.

    Might have a barbie this weekend lol.
     
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    That's true. Some people have no concept when disposing of information.
    You could probably find someone cheaper than a PI to borrow their garbage too.
     
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    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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    Depends wha tyou mean by sussing out>
     
  6. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

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    Probably 500k house not sure about cash. At this stage going to the person we don't want as he's been there for 20 years and likely collecting carer allowance. Another sibling a spoke to lose their share to legal fees than go to the person in question. It will get ugly

    How much is a PI?
     
  7. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

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    I'm not near the bin but it's near your neck of the woods. Near case new Holland tractor factory. How much do you charge an inspection?
     
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  8. Terry_w

    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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    about $200 to $300 per hour.
     
  9. bob shovel

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    With the know how you could find out some good info in a couple of hours couldn't you? Business name, name changes, investments?
     
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    My services are free....... but I couldn't do it Bob lol.

    A PI would want about $500 down and $125 per hour per operative.
     
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    Weird. Are you all siblings?
    Some people get a bit funny when it comes to this sort of thing, you hear some odd stories.
     
  12. Terry_w

    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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    Depends what you are trying to find out. You could do simple searches yourself - ASIC searches etc
     
  13. bob shovel

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    Yeah families are messed up!
    Couple of sayings come to mind. You can choose your friends but not got family. And street angel, house devil.

    Its not uncommon for people out there to be "careers" to get the allowances but not lift a finger.

    I sort of out of the situation but might go straight to the cause to see what's going on. I could bet that each person would have a different take on things plus each person knows the most. Chinese whispers, gossiping plus selfishness!
     
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    I know a Barrister that started out doing that when he was a law clerk,his boss would park down the road ,he would run up empty the recycle bin run back then jump in the car,and he went into criminal law with several chambers..
     
  15. Azazel

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    You can pick your nose, but you can't eat your friends.
    I've heard of people getting funny as soon as someone has died - like getting into the house first and taking things before anyone else gets there.
     
  16. Terry_w

    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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    Taking someone's garbage is actually stealing.

    you can look - but just put it back.
     
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    Wow, is it? I realise it's the owner's bin (if bought from council so the size is correct), but once it's off the individual's land - say on collection day - is it still stealing? If so, is it stealing from the council (who owns the verge and footpath) or the owner?
     
  18. Terry_w

    Terry_w Solicitor, Finance Broker, CTA Business Member

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    Yes stealing from the council.

    I learned this in the AFP, when I stole someone's garbage one night.
     
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    With a few flagons!
     
  20. Azazel

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    Better Call Saul.
    Everyone has to start somewhere.
     
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