Dishwasher - installed by tenants.

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  1. Ami Henshaw

    Ami Henshaw New Member

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    I have tenants that are wanting to put a dishwasher in. I have said no to supplying as the maintenance has been an issue with past tenants. There is already an empty space for it and all fittings are there.
    Tenants are willing to purchase and install themselves, also providing any maintenance to it and will take it when they leave.
    My question, is there any legal reason this cannot be done, apart from me not agreeing to it? Am I allowed to decline?
     
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    I don't think you'd be allowed to decline anyway.

    Ironically, purporting to give them 'permission' to do it is probably the riskiest part of the whole thing.
     
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    Since there is space, and all fittings, you probably cannot refuse permission to install a dishwasher.

    Sort of like saying the tenants can’t install a washing machine. Similar scenario.

    Why refuse? If the tenants own and install, they are responsible for any maintenance. Like their washing machine.
     
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    Most landlords would just provide a dishwasher.
     
  5. Antoni0

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    Yes, have you seen the end result when a hose blows off and it floods out the entire kitchen. I would ask them to have it professionally installed and make sure it's a new one.
     
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    ^^^ Bingo.
     
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    Weird story - I had tenants who moved out at very short notice, owing rent, and stole the landlord-provided dishwasher. When the final inspection was done, the PM advised me it would be taken out of their bond. At the first open home for new tenants, the old tenants turned up with a replacement brand new dishwasher and installed it. No explanation, nothing. It's worked fine ever since.
     
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    And when they leave, make sure they replace (or plug) the s-trap under the sink, otherwise you will get leakage thru this when dishwasher drain hose is removed.
     
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    Yep, had that happen too, PM sent out a pulmber when the new tenants complained of a leak.

    I haven't looked recently but one of the REA's I had put a clause in the lease that they need to turn off all taps if they go away from the property for more than 1 week.
     
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    That's nice...a new dishwasher for a old.
     
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    Good point, I have seen this happen as well.
     
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    Most tenants wouldn't be capable of installation would they ?
    Stop into Harvey Norman, buy dishwasher, pay the extra $50 for delivery and installation = done :D
    Hoses blowing can happen to anyone at any time, when was the last time all the toilet flexible hoses were changed at my home :oops:
     
  13. James Bond

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    They probably stole the new one from somewhere too....!
     
  14. Antoni0

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    Not much different from a washing machine as most newer houses are designed for dishwashers and have the taps in the cupboard, but on first installation you usually have to drill out the barbed waste water pipe on the s-bend of the sink and a whole saw cut to run hoses into the cupboard area. I had a tenant cut the s-bend return pipe with a kitchen knife and removed the end of the barb that holds the hose from falling off and then installed the inlet hose on the tap without a seal and wondered why it leaked water everywhere.
     
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    Seen this happen and on wooden floors. Sounds simple enough to install but can be catastrophic if you don’t get it perfect.
     
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    Some of my tenants can't even change a light globe, so I would never give permission without insisting on professional installation. (Even then I would follow up and inspect post installation to satisfy myself all is okay).
     
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    You are going to manhandle a dishwasher out of its space to see the hose is not crimped and bring a screwdriver to make sure the hose clips are tight but not over tight? .... methinks not. :cool:
     
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    Would I pull the dishwasher out to check the back? No. But I definitely would check the drain connection to the S-trap and the water connection to the undersink isolating tap(s) as well as running the dishwasher through a cycle to check for leaks.

    I wouldn't need to do this if they showed evidence it was professionally installed, but I would if they were doing it themselves.

    I made the comment on many tenants not knowing how to change a light globe. The same is true of the small taps under the sink in that many tenants are totally unaware that they can turn these off to isolate a leak. (I know this from the blank looks I get when I run a new tenant thru all aspects of the property when I handover keys at the start of a tenancy.)
     
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    Many dishwashers and washing machines have automatic water supply cutouts to minimise damage through burst pipes. It is something I insist on for home and ip.
     
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