Digital door locks

Anyone have some experience in this area ?

We have an older push button style lock on the laundry door entry (for the kids) to gain keyless entry, also allows us to change the code randomly (when we go away and the kids are at Dad's).

Having recently installed a new front door entry we were considering this
SDL-S1 Smart Slim 5-in-1 Lever/Handle (43mm wide)

Pro's: No house door keys ever (I haven't carried a key in 8 years so far)
Con's: expensive

TIA for feedback

 

Not sure on this particular one but greatest issue with many consumer grade locks has been the tradeoff of physical security. I.e the kwickset one brought out 5 years ago was hacker proof enough, but in 2 seconds could be breached physically. I ended up deciding a monitored strike was the easiest/safest option with swipecard access like any commercial building, skill kept key access and original hardware if desired on heritage stuff. That way you can simply program any number of cards with limited access options, like one entry per day during X hours to feed the pets etc.

 

Interesting.
For many years I have enjoyed not having to carry any form to access (other than remembering the code).
Interesting, hadn't considered being "hacked", having a Bluetooth option probably makes hacking very easy........

 

BIL got something like this

Nop need to carry keys when going for a run

 

The style in the 1st post also has fingerprint tech
Though the Bluetooth hackability is a concern...
Mass production key locks are said to have a 1 in 40 ratio (hence why some keys can open others locks...).

Will probably buy and trial
Happy to provide feed back at a later date

 

We are also looking at a digital lock on our new front door. Doormaker has suggested these two as options:

Premium Electronic Digital Deadbolt EDL01SN - JMA Hardware

https://www.gainsboroughhardware.com.au/en/freestyle.html

 

I have one of these … it’s worked great for the 2 years I’ve had it . App is good . Easy to allocate PIN to family members , track who has entered and when , etc etc etc . You can set it to push a notification to your phone every time the door opens or closes , etc etc … or not. It is wifi rather than Bluetooth.

WiFi Smart Locks | Schlage Encode

there are locks that work with Alexa, or HomeKit …. Pick your poison

 

The MAJOR disappoint we have faced in relation to this has been the lack of knowledge and assistance from our door manufacture

There has been no "upsell" or options offered, rather the cheapest of everything to keep the price down (to win the job)

As such the installed door and sashless window (quoted) ended up a door and basic window combo

It is commercial aluminium frame assembly, but the stile or door upright where the lock should be is barely 42mm wide (when closed), so this limits most locks, as they are far wider and suited to timber doors (the style posted/linked by @euro73 ).

Great feedback so far, and very much appreciated

 

What have you found that fits 42mm? The 5 in 1 requires 43mm minimum ?

 

If *actual* security if your primary goal, then as Cookie said, your weakest point is the physical door which can be kicked in.
Any thieves that will actually be prepared to hack your door via bluetooth will either have to know you, and/or what valuables you have inside your house/premises.
It's actually really simple to "bypass" any basic tumbler lock which is found on 99.9% of doors.

Digital doors are just a convenience play, really. If you really want to be an early adopter of something like this, I'd be looking at something that integrates with Google:
Learn about the Nest × Yale Lock before you buy - Google Nest Help
I don't know if it's available in Australia, but Yale have teamed up with Google to make this digital lock. Best part of it, is that it integrates with Google Nest, so you can use the app to lock/unlock the door, even unlock remotely from anywhere else. And you'll have peace of mind knowing that you're protected by Google's encryption.

The only flaws I see with the Google one, is that i'd rely on your home wifi network, and you have to change the battery yearly (or sooner). But at least Yale make good locks and if your physical door is sturdy enough, then crooks would have a hard time getting past.

 

I like digital. You can’t get 100% security with any lock. I’ve seen a locksmith open a conventionally locked door in 30 seconds flat. He stuck a wire type gun into the keyhole, pressed the trigger on the gun half dozen times and the door was unlocked.

I wouldn’t mind getting one of those “wire guns”. It would come in handy.

 

I have this, which is great for not having to bring keys anywhere, and lets you manually set (and delete) up to 100 access codes.

Samsung Digital Mortise Door Lock - Bunnings Australia

It could be worth getting a WiFi connected one that lets you remotely set (and delete) access codes and monitor who enters and exits, though.

Smart Door Locks - Digital Door Locks - Bunnings Australia

 

If there was a good one that didnt cost a fortune, I'd consider replacing all of our rentals with it so we didnt have to bother with keys. Possibly even at my own cost to get the convenience.

From what i understand you need to buy them for each door though, so for houses (probably not so much units), they'd need family room door, laundry door, etc etc and would really add up unless there's some kinda whole house kit im unaware of?

 

Any door lock is only as good as the door, the door jamb and the latch itself let alone the integrity of the lock mechanism itself. You can have a 24 charecter code for access that fails when a boot on the door lock opens the door when the jamb splinters away, the latch bends or snaps inwards or the lock itself bursts. These digital locks assume there is no security screen etc which then means you need a key.....They often protrude and limit security screens.

 

What happens in case of emergency or fire?
Grab the key and open the door is easy. Digital?

 

They are like car doors, they open from the inside as a safety requirement.
That's what has always worried me about deadlocks !
My insurer requires deadlocks, but I've always left the key in the lock (on the inside) so we can get out in the dark in a hurry if needed.

Locks are for honest people, if someone puts in enough effort to actually get inside then they will easily get out a locked door again.
You would make a heap of unwanted noise kicking in most any door !

I have ordered the lock in the OP, will provide feedback when its in and sorted

 

My solution

 

@Stoffo any feedback on the lock?

 

Yep, all the promises in the world that it'd fit (I even sent pics and measurements) but it didn't
Sent it back but never got my money back

 

:O that's terrible customer service, how frustrating