Education & Work Difference between an incomptent and inexperienced employee?

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  1. TMNT

    TMNT Well-Known Member

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    Ok so the legal definitions are easily found by google

    Im having a discussion with a few guys at work

    So whats the difference

    Obviously incompetent has negatice connetations
    Whule inexperienced is a fact but can also be used negatively

    So you get a new high school kid to do a job obviously he is green so he is inexperienced

    You have some guy who is hired to be a higher position and he is crap at his job. Then he is incompetent.

    Is the term more applicable if he thibks he is good at his job?

    If a good enployee is suddenly thrown some extta reapnsibikites that its not on his job role. Does this make him incompetent?

    Im sitting here scratching my head
     
  2. Nick Valsamis

    Nick Valsamis Well-Known Member

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    Incompetent would describe someone with experience that can't do the job correctly.
    Inexperienced would describe someone that doesn't have the experience to do the job with competence.

    Is this what you were looking for?
     
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    To me inexperienced means still learning how to do the job, but making every effort to improve. Incompetent means someone who knows how to do something but is either too lazy or not bothered to do it properly.

    Inexperienced should improve, incompetent probably won't.
    Marg
     
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    If you're required to hold a licence to undertake a task, you need to proove your competence to the regulating body eg. Real estate agent or architect or auditor etc. Proving competence in the theory does not mean that you are any good at it.

    (@TMNT - is an incomtpent employee one who can't spell or did you mean incontinent)?
     
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  5. TMNT

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    interesting answers,

    obviously to call someone incompetent is not a nice thing to say, its insulting, so if you asked me to fill in for a lawyer for a day, id have no idea so im incompetent, however I dont think anyone expects me to be able to fill in, nor do I claim to be able to

    does that make void the incompetent label? and turn me into unqualified/not right for the job?

    as marg4000 said, inexperienced has plenty of room to move, incompetent probably wont improve..
     
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    This is a recent case of incompetent: WA Agent fined

    An example of competence being based upon holding certain qualifications.
     
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    Competence --> ability to do the assigned work successfully/ to a defined standard
    Someone can be incompetent and inexperienced at the same time, so they're not either or?
     
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    Incompetence implies they are untrainable. Inexperience means that they are trainable, just lacking in background in a particular area.
     
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    I consider inexperienced to mean not having done the job before, but having the capacity/potential to do it (with some education or support).

    Incompetent would mean they have had the education, support and experience of doing the job previously, but still can't do it effectively.
     
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    Also, incompetent and not yet competent are two different things again
     
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    Mate You seem to be incompetent in sharing links :D:p
     
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    Competence is the skills/qualities required to do a job effectively.

    Experience is either (1) the competence gained through exposure to a job, or (2) just the length of that exposure regardless of competence.

    This dual meaning of experience could be the reason for your confusion. If (1) competence and experience go together. If (2) they may not, as shown below:
    test 20.jpg
     
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    So what's the difference between ignorance and apathy?

    I don't know and I don't care.
     
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    Ozzie in Texas Well-Known Member

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    exactly.
     
  16. Ozzie in Texas

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    No need to scratch you head......or even google legal definitions. I don't think this is worthy of debate and in advance, I totally agree that I am stupid for even bothering to enter this discussion.

    Being incompetent is equivalent to not giving a ****.............and being inexperienced is the same as not knowing what the heck you are doing.

    You can't make someone give a **** about anything if they don't care. However, you can teach someone who is willing to learn.

    And that's a big BUT. Cause if that inexperienced person is unwilling to learn, that makes him/her equally inexperienced and incompetent.
     
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    ... and then you have officious, is that the opposite of incompetent, sort of:)
     
  18. TMNT

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    Jesus some very oversensitice people here

    Serious discussion about something not very controversial and people getting their knickers in a knot
     
  19. TMNT

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    Off to google what that means!....seriously
     
  20. MTR

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    I thought everyone was taking the mickey .. it's pretty basic question
     

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