Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community

Did I need council approval?

Discussion in 'Renovation & Home Improvement' started by Eugene82, 18th Feb, 2016.

  1. Eugene82

    Eugene82 Active Member

    Joined:
    2nd Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    36
    Location:
    NSW
    Hi everyone.
    Somehow reading a few topics here made me wonder.
    I've moved into my current PPOR a bit over a year ago. It's a ca1960s house. Since then I turned one of the rooms into an extra bedroom (put a wall up and a door) and also a toilet with hand basin next to it. All work has been done by licensed plumbers/electrician/builder.
    However no one told me of the need to have any council approval for it. Have I done something wrong or this type of development does not need certification?
    Thanks, E
     
  2. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,382
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    As long as you're friends with your neighbours and you haven't told your arch nemesis it sounds fine to me :)
     
  3. Eugene82

    Eugene82 Active Member

    Joined:
    2nd Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    36
    Location:
    NSW
    What will happen if I go to sell it or rent it out?
     
  4. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,382
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    I don't see a problem with it, some councils are funny and so are some people.
    Sounds like a good Reno for cg and rent appeal.
    Renting no issue, should work well for you.
    Selling depends on the council and buyer and the way it's been done.
     
  5. Anthony416

    Anthony416 Active Member

    Joined:
    14th Dec, 2015
    Posts:
    37
    Location:
    North Shore, Sydney
    Short answer, yes I think you should have.
    It would probably have been classified as Complying Development which could have been signed off by a Private Certifier (no DA necessary).
    Not sure of future implications since, as others have mentioned, it depends on councils which are fickle and have a variety of opinions and stances......
     
  6. Eugene82

    Eugene82 Active Member

    Joined:
    2nd Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    36
    Location:
    NSW
    Thanks for your replies. So do I need to get in touch with council and try getting it approved retrospectively? Does it work like that?
     
  7. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,382
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    Call anonymously first to suss them out. Also call the guys that did the work and double check.

    Do you plan on selling soon?
     
  8. Jennifer Duke

    Jennifer Duke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    289
    Location:
    NSW » Sydney
    This is a useful tool. Bedrooms | NSW Interactive Buildings for Exempt Development

    I would be calling council and asking (without necessarily telling them your address!) particularly if you intend to rent it out. If there is a fire or something and someone dies, you may find yourself liable if you don't have the correct council approval and there was something wrong with the room (and your landlord's insurance could be voided).
     
  9. Eugene82

    Eugene82 Active Member

    Joined:
    2nd Oct, 2015
    Posts:
    36
    Location:
    NSW
    I just called my builder. And his reply was that as they haven't changed anything structural its classed as a reno and hence I don't need to have an approval. I'll call council anonymously.
    I don't plan on selling soon, as my wife is on maternity leave, so with APRA changes I won't pass serviceability atm. However I might be selling it or renting it out at some point in the future. Who knows lol
     
  10. bob shovel

    bob shovel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,382
    Location:
    Somewhere in the land of Oz
    Council just wants money out of you.it's unlikely they know what they're doing :)

    I'm of the same opinion as your builder
     
  11. Ace in the Hole

    Ace in the Hole Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,516
    Location:
    Sydney
    If it's your PPOR I wouldn't say nothing to nobody.
    It's not like you built a meth lab.
     
  12. Chilliblue

    Chilliblue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    1,579
    Location:
    Australia
    You have some great advise already posted. My only input is that you may not covered under your insurance policy if the works are not authorised. Review your PDF.
     
    Anthony416 likes this.