Health & Family Dental implants done in India?

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  1. Propertunity

    Propertunity Exclusive Real Estate Buyers Agent Business Member

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    I thought I’d put this to the wisdom of the crowd. I’m considering dental implants to replace the odd missing tooth here and there (about 5 - mostly molars - used for chewing ).

    Prices I’ve been quoted in Australia are around $4,500 to $5,000 each for an implant and a crown. This would cost $25,000 approx assuming no complications. Yes I can afford it but I’m struggling to justify the price when a google search discovers a place like this in India Dental Implants India Australia for (going off a quote emailed back to me) $480 for an implant and $210 for a crown, making a total of < $4,000.

    Considering you can fly to Mumbai return for $1,200 and stay in a decent motel nearby for $100 per night for the 2 weeks it would take, its only $7,000 total in India compared with 3.5 times that amount in Australia. What would you do?
     
  2. Jess Peletier

    Jess Peletier Mortgage Broker - Australia Wide Business Member

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    My husband needs two implants done - he's going to Bali. They have some excellent dental places over there that lots of Aussies use. One of our friends had his done there and is really happy.
     
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    While I don't know anything about work done in India, and I'd like to know, I have had extensive dental work done in Colombia. The standard of the clinic was superb, and, unlike Australia, appointments were always on time. The cost was way less than in Australia. I was living there at the time.

    I still have the dentures three years later.
     
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    As long as the infection control is the same as in Australia,then it would work out well..
    Being a real estate agent can you claim the up-grade on your tax return..
     
  5. Propertunity

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    I think not. I’d be a private expense. But the phrase “like a rat with a gold tooth” springs to mind.
     
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    I would look at it seriously. I've had work done (dental and other medical procedures) in Viet Nam ... internationally qualified practitioners but at Vietnamese prices. Worth shopping around and you can get very good quality overseas.
    I've currently got a broken tooth that I've been told needs to come out .... quoted in the hundreds of dollars for extraction and replacement implant and crown.
    I will get a second opinion in Sydney later this month when I travel there to see if the tooth can be saved, but I think its unlikely and I will get the work done in Saigon.
     
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    I'd get it done here - but that's why I pay gobs of $$$ to my private health insurance to cover things like that.
    For every good story there is a horror story and I just couldn't handle the risk. Definitely check how travel insurance will perceive you if something goes wrong.
     
  8. Jake Milne

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    I pay a good sum in private health every month and they've just told me I get a max of <$2000 for major Dental (like Orthodontist work) + hospital cover... If Propertunity's fees are circa $25k I doubt a private health insurer would make a dent in the Dental costs.
     
  9. geoffw

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    Does it take only two weeks?

    I thought that it took 5-6 months for the implant to become a part of the bone, more if there are bone grafts involved.

    So that may be more spent on flights but less on accommodation.
     
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    The Indians reckon they can do everything in 2 weeks. I’ll have to do some more research.
     
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    OK, it may depend on the type of implant. I was looking at the titanium implants, where it takes that time for ossification to occur, which means the titanium becomes bonded to the bone. There are other sorts of implants, presumably when you have a partial tooth already.

    Titanium implants apparently last well but are expensive.
     
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    Isn't that why you get them?
     
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    I had a front incisor done it was about $8,000 including bone graft, I got about $3,000 back from health fund, but I too worry about quality of work, infection etc. overseas.

    In Bali I met a couple, she had some done and had to wait 3 weeks I think for the next step so they were touring the island on a motorcycle. She seemed very happy with the work done.
     
  14. Terry_w

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    I go to a dentist in Thailand and the costs are about 20% of Australian prices, facilities and service and skills are excellent.
     
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    I think expensive dental work will be done more and more overseas. Just googling dental work overseas and one can see the extensive dental services catering to overseas clients that is available. The system of remuneration in Australia for the dental industry is grossly over the top IMO. I just had an overseas holidays combined with dental maintenance with the savings on dental work in Malaysia covering a good part of the holidays!

    The most common crown work done in Australia starts from about $1500 and in Malaysia it is about one-third of that. My wife had a crown capping done of top grade Zirconia for about RM 2500 which is about $830!

    I am quite happy of settling the dental bill without relying on refunds from dental insurance which is another rip off in Australia! Cost of specialist dental work done overseas, or maybe all dental work, are not fairly reimbursed by the health insurance schemes in Australia. I have given up on dental insurance and is quite happy to pay overseas as when required without relying on insurance.
     
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    Hi Alan

    I have experience with both Indian medical system and having been in Australia now for a number of years. I think you will be better off to get some recommendations on some of the better places to get dental work by some Mumbai locals who have good knowledge of the professionals who excel in their field.

    For instance, I was in India (not Mumbai) a few years back and asked around (have some doctors in the family) for some of the best neurosurgeons and I was referred to some excellent ones. The facilities were world class, the doctors were knowledgeable and the level of care I received was amazing. The good news about going to the best is that they did not try to rip me off and instead talked me out of getting an expensive back surgery which would probably not have helped much anyway. The whole thing was not cheap but far less expensive than here in Oz and you can see the specialist practically the next day and have the surgery within a week, no hassles at all.

    So if I were you, I would find some Mumbai locals who are preferably in the medical field and ask them for some Dentists that they trust. This will increase your chances of encountering a dud to next to negligible.

    Good luck.
     
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    Don't go to India, go to Thailand as it's more tourist friendly from experience.
     
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    Been to Thailand numerous times. Love the people and places (and food). When I've asked around the dental prices seem to be about 50% of those in AU. India's seemed to be even less but I haven't traveled there at all. But I'm not married to the idea of India per se. I was just comparing with AU and feeling ripped off in my home country.
     
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    I am going to India in December on holiday to meet family and part of the plan is to get an implant done for one of my missing molar. I know the dentist and have used him for other work so has my family members. Very happy with his work. Costs for one implant $400 AUD (all inclusive). Like you I have been quoted between $5000-$6000 per implant here in Australia.

    I can let you know my experience once I am back.

    Cheers,
    Oracle.
     
  20. geoffw

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    I don't know how Malaysian prices compare, but it may be worth checking too. Airfares are slightly less, as is the flight time. KL is not quite as chaotic as some Asian cities, and may present a little less of a culture shock.

    Having said that, I have a friend who had work done in Bangkok. He went with a friend who is a dental nurse. She was very happy with the quality of the work- she said that the work was actually better than in Australia as they typically have smaller hands.