Deed of Partition and CGT

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by PRD_85, 3rd Aug, 2019.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Hi all,

    Can someone please clarify whether CGT will be paid in the following instance:

    - 2 people (A and B) buy a permit-approved parcel of land, with a deed of partition in place

    - A and B then construct the 2 townhouses

    - A and B then subdivide the 2 lots so A and can own 1 title outright and B can own 1 title outright (rather than both owning 50/50 of each)

    - A and B will be living in the 2 townhouses as their main residences upon titles being transferred to their individual names

    Kind regards,
    Paul

    @Terry_w would be good to get your thoughts
     
  2. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    this exact scenario was just discussed in the accounting thread

    Partition CGT date

    short answer is yes tax will be payable. Probably in your case CGT

    When a block of land is purchased by joint owners, the owners each have an equal interest in the whole block of land. They do not own distinct parts of that land.

    As such, when the block of land is subdivided the owners have equal shares in each block of subdivided land.

    However, when a transaction occurs that results in each person owning a distinct and separate block of land, each owner is taken to have disposed of their interest in any subdivided block which is now owned by another. Similarly, the owner is taken to have acquired the other owner's interest in the block of land that they now own exclusively (Taxation Determination TD 92/148).
     
    Last edited: 3rd Aug, 2019
  3. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    I saw that thread before posting, but couldn’t work out what the answer was...

    Is it the case that if there is a bare trust in place from the outset, CGT can be avoided?

    In the case that CGT had to be paid, how would it be calculated? On land value only?
     
  4. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    CGT would be calculated on the market value of the interest being transferred at the time of the CGT event.
     
  5. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Could this CGT be avoided through a deed of partition? There seems to be conflicting commentary throughout the threads I’ve seen relating to this topic. Some say it can be avoided through a bare trust at time of acquisition and others saying it cannot.
     
  6. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Sorry for the multiple replies, but just for my own understanding, I’d appreciate if the following scenario could be answered:

    1. A and B buy land for $1,500,000
    2. Upon construction completion and subdivision, each townhouse is valued at $1,500,000

    Does this mean that the ‘market value’ of each person’s 50% interest is $750,000 (in each townhouse)? Further, given the underlying land was purchased for $1.5M as JT/TiC, doesn’t this mean that no CGT is payable?
     
  7. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    the cost base of each person's 50% interest in the land would be $750k. the market value of that 50% interest would now be $1.5m. that excludes any construction and subdivision costs. so using basic numbers they have a $750k capital gain (excluding their share of construction and development costs).
     
  8. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Okay this makes more sense. However, assuming construction for each townhouse is $500,000, doesn’t the capital gain become $250k, rather than $750k? Don’t we have to deduct the construction cost?
     
  9. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    as i said "excluding any construction and development costs). if they incurred $500k in development costs for each townhouse then the cost base would be $1.25m. so yes a $250k capital gain.
     
  10. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Understood - thanks Mike.

    Views on the bare trust comment from earlier?
     
  11. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    a complex legal question.
     
  12. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Understood.

    Have you dealt with a real-life example like this before?

    The reason I ask is because I see you’re from Melbourne (like me), and given I’ll be seeking formal, written advice on this scenario (as it applies to me directly) in the next few weeks once we obtain permit approval, it may be worthwhile getting in touch privately.

    Cheers
     
  13. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    yes i have if wanting advice on the bare trust we refer our developer clients to HWL Ebsworth as each situation is different. I can give you the contact I deal with on almost a daily basis and they can provide a fee estimate.
     
  14. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    42,096
    Location:
    Australia wide
    If partitioned at purchase I would say no if done correctly as there would be no change in beneficial ownership. Each party would hold one portion of the land but title would be in both names.
     
  15. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    42,096
    Location:
    Australia wide
  16. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Can you clarify what you mean by title in both names? Isn’t the whole point of partitioning to seperate the title ownership
     
  17. PRD_85

    PRD_85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7th Jan, 2018
    Posts:
    139
    Location:
    Melbourne, VIC
    Okay great - I know HWL well. Are you able to provide me with your best contact number / email so I can provide you with a rundown of the situation in more depth to which a few estimate can be provided? That would be great!

    Also, in relation to the hypothetical example previously, why is it that the full $500k gets added to each person’s cost base rather than just $250k (50%)? Is this because each person is taken to be personally paying $750k as a 50% labs interest but the FULL construction cost?
     
  18. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    42,096
    Location:
    Australia wide
    AB have joint ownership in relevant portions. Partitioned from the beginning so that A holds part of the land as bare trustee for B and vice versa.
    Subdivision
    A owns Lot 1
    B owns Lot 2
    No stamp duty, no CGT event and no GST potentially.
     
  19. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    you said each townhouse cost $500k to build so a total construction cost of $1m ?
     
  20. Mike A

    Mike A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,656
    Location:
    UNIVERSE
    Vincent Licciardi
    Senior Associate

    HWLE

    Level 26, 530 Collins Street | Melbourne VIC 3000
    Phone +61 3 8644 3522 Fax 1300 365 323 (Australia) | Fax +61 3 9101 7985 (International)
    [email protected] | www.hwlebsworth.com.au


    Full service | Commercially oriented | Unrivalled value
     

We provide our clients with the opportunity to select their own investments from a wide range of ASX listed securities. We provide the research to ensure your selections will achieve the goals. This is the value of advice.