Cracked brick wall, suspect foundation moving, any structural engineer to recommend in Sydney ?

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  1. Kangaroo

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    Bought a house without B&P in Sydney, now find cracks in external wall. :eek::eek: silly silly silly !

    Any one can recommend a good structural engineer in Sydney ?

    double/split story, full brick PPOR has vertical cracks in brick walls right from the bottom to the very top, near corners of walls. So far around 2 mm wide. No internal cracks yet.
     
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    Which area?
     
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    Is it "Possible" the cracks have been there since not long after the house was constructed, all part of settling, that the previous owners just ignored it, never painted etc?
     
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    Very common like this out west. You say vertical. Is it straight up and down (a little scary) or somewhat diagonal?
    FYI Urutek won't waste time on a house with cracks under 5mm - or is it 5cm? I've forgotten but they like 'em big and scary. Either way, 2mm is not much to brag about. Photo?
     
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    it is straight up and down !
     
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    No idea though. have not got faintest idea when it occurred.
     
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    Homebush
     
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    Why don't you get a builder to do an inspection now, then. They are the devil's advocate and will give you the worst news possible. Then it'll start to get better from there ....
     
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    Should I use a structural engineer or a builder ? I thought builder may or may not has conflict of interest or not so conflict of interest there. I read it somewhere else on whirlpool saying it is better to use structural people.
     
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    I don't know but structural engineers are pretty evasive, from my limited exerience. And probably cost a fortune and get very involved. Builders tend to have a common sense approach and are more available. I'd still want to know if there's anything else been missed. I would think of it as a way of saying sorry to yourself.
    If the builder tells you to get a structural engineer, I'd look at Urutek and other such companies first before making a firm decision on what to do next.
    Might not have to do anything.
     
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    2mm or 2cm ... 2 mm , you call that a crack ... :rolleyes:

    How old is the house ?

    Cracks in Sydney are pretty common . especially if it's clay.

    I'd look at a building inspector to inspect it . Paid on an hourly basis. If that's all they do , they're not there to generate money from you by recommending work they're not going to do. ...

    I always remember a house we saw in rhodes 30 odd years ago . Had major structural cracks in the middle of the house with the centre part needing underpining . Saw it a year later when it went back on the market and having seen it before I could tell that all they'd done was fill the cracks .

    Our down sizer is some 80 years old and has a couple of decent cracks , one around 1 cm in back wall and some cracking across internal walls. We'll get a building inspector in and get advice on what we need to do.

    My parents last house had some decent cracks due to inadequate foundations . they had additional piers put in and where needed the existing piers were replaced with adjustable metal piers . think it cost around 20 K .

    Cliff
     
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    Definitely an ingunear. Cracks are a concern as they're vertical but very small.

    How close to the corners of the building?

    Could just be detailing - lack of expansion joint. So a sawcut and expansion joint ties laid into the joints or it may require crack stitching if the crack is caused by settlement.
     
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    one thing I've noticed in the past , on the forum is there seems to be much more emphasis placed on reactive soils in Melbourne and Brisbane compared with Sydney .

    A quick google search provides much more info from melb and Brissie sources.

    Is Sydney a more stable place ...

    Cliff
     
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    Sydney is full clay, the old house had no joints hence you get cracking.

    If iwas you kamgaroo I would just monitor it for a year or two before calling anyone. Like Westoz said they might have been there for years.
     
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    Another vote for a structural engineer in. Most importantly they will identify the cause of cracking..

    adding articulation to the external brick (assuming its just a veneer?) is just one type of remedial fix and won't address the cause of movement.

    from a quick google search, this is the type of guy you need (i have no affiliation with the company) John Forrest | Forrest Engineering Solutions
    Expect $800-1.3k for a comprehensive report with specific recommendations. You get what you pay for..
     
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    What is "full clay" ? is the opposite to reactive clay ?
     
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    Meant to say full of clay...blame the tablet.
     
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    The cracks are about 1/2 brick length from the corners.
     
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    I personally don't worry about cracks (only the plumber's - "oi, lift ya dacks up or I'll park my bike there!").

    I just don't like the idea of keeping building professionals on high incomes (lol - apologies to all in that field)

    All my properties have cracks - large and small . I would only be concerned if I visited my IP one day and found part of the property scattered across the lawn.

    I'd be doubly concerned if I then saw a pair of legs sticking out of the rubble.....how do I get "it" into the boot of my car without anyone noticing? So far that hasn't happened nor have I heard of it happening.

    My 2c.