COVIDsafe App- just registered

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  1. See Change

    See Change Well-Known Member

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    Hi everyone

    I encourage everyone to register for this ASAP .

    It will help us get back to a normal life ASAP .

    While I understand that in normal times , people might have concerns re privacy , the government appears to have addressed them and I for one believe that ANYTHING we can do to decrease the spread in our community and get back to a normal life is worth any theoretical concerns .

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  2. wylie

    wylie Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll join.

    As my sons tell me... who'd be interested in me. :D:p
     
  3. See Change

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    The issue is to get your son's to register and then to get them to get their friends to register .

    Cliff
     
  4. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. But like me .... supermarket... home .. Bunnings ... home ... dog walk twice a day (with distancing) ... and that's about it
     
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    I agree. Have downloaded and installed as well.
     
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    Yep, downloaded and registered, hopefully there is enough numbers to assist the Health Authorities in making decisions.

    Can understand peoples concerns about privacy but they seem to have been addressed and having people registered allows them to measure the level of infection as well as trace infections.

    Well done @wylie, people not registering on the basis that they feel safe limits the picture delivered to Health Authorities.
     
  7. meme plecko

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    Done, no brainer
     
  8. HUGH72

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    Yes, I have downloaded the app and are encouraging others to do the same. The greater number of downloads, the sooner restrictions are likely to be removed. This will really help when outbreaks occur and contact tracing is required. I understand the privacy concerns but this is for the greater good.
     
  9. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it's not absolute location, it's location as compared to another device. It records that you've been next to somebody else's phone. If somebody tests positive, their data is analysed. If they find out that your phone has been close to somebody else's for say 15 minutes, then you get alerted so that you can choose to be tested.

    So it won't know that you've been in Bunnings. But it will know if you've been in contact with somebody somewhere with Coronavirus.
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    Btw you don't have to use your real name. They say you can use a pseudonym, though you have to use a real phone number.
     
  11. Terry_w

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    WRONG .

    This is being used for one thing ONLY . It's not tracking cases or measuring the level of infections .

    If someone is diagnosed with COVID ( and has the APP ) , a public health official can send an SMS to anyone ( assuming they also have the APP )who has been in close proximity to the infected person for more than 15 mins , so they know to be tested .

    The aim is to warn people who may have been exposed but haven't realised it .

    No one can access the data for any other reason . A court order doesn't allow anyone to access any data , it can't be used to see if someone is self isolating .

    ****...ed off with Kristina Kenealy for saying she wouldn't download it until she saw the legislation . At least her leader is being more logical .

    Cliff
     
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    Downloaded and registered.
     
  14. Tony3008

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    I might install it, but can't recall being in close proximity to another person for 15 minutes since all this started and can't imagine doing so for the immediate future.
     
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    It would make sense if the world united on this front and had the SAME app.
     
  16. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Plus Member

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    Prob wouldn't matter atm as we cannot travel.
     
  17. Westminster

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    I'm in.
     
  18. Casteller

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    Different countries, different requirements.
    Have an app here in Catalunya running for about 5 weeks now, 500K+ downloads, 8 million population. Tracks cases and adds confirmed and suspected cases to a heat map. Asks for symptoms to generate the suspected cases and alerts services of those. Everyone is identified by government ID numbers so more intrusive than the Australian app. I registered, shows there are 181 confirmed cases in my immediate locality (within 250m), and 314 suspected cases. In my municipality confirmed 2150 cases (0.8% of population) + 3352 suspected (1.2%).
     
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  19. Gockie

    Gockie Unicycle - get exhausted but never two tired Premium Member

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    So mixing with people near you really seems to be a risk, I doubt it would be so high here, but then again, it's an unknown.
     
  20. wylie

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    I sent invitations via the app request to send this on. It has been interesting to hear people's thoughts.

    A neighbour (teacher) told me she and her husband (specialist doctor) would not load it. She said this is the start of a slippery slope, and then went on to talk about some countries (Sweden?) wanting to insert chips under the skin.

    I said that nobody is asking her to have a chip inserted and that I respected her opinion (we are very good friends) but to read the app details before making a decision, that she can remove her details from the app at any time, and that Gumtree and eBay know more about her than this. I suggested she make up a fake name, and all they have anyway is her name and number and aren't interested if she's gone to Bunnings or Coles. I sent her the legislation as she is a smart lady and at least she can read it before deciding.

    I said if you decide you don't want anyone to know anything, put your phone in the bin. She said what else could they link to? There's a lot of suspicious people out there but those same people plaster photos of their families on FB and give way more information to so many different entities. It seems they just don't trust the government.

    They didn't want Amazon in the US to be the custodian of that information. Why not an Australian company? Where is the FB information held? There's more to get from a hacking of FB than just a phone number.

    (They also decided to opt out of MyGov.)

    Another neighbour works for border force and he won't download it either. But he puts up FB posts too with family pics. I have no personal information on FB but people up their workplace, old school etc so hackers have a lot of information to cobble together with other details from other places that can be hacked or misused.

    Hubby's sister called and said she was worried about who would know what. What if she drives further than the soon to be allowed 50km? I explained to her that all they have is a name (make one up) and phone number, are not interested in where she travels or where she shops. Am I too trusting? :p

    Anyway, it's been interesting to see who won't load it and why. And even more interesting that one sent me a "no". Why even reply? Just do what you want. :rolleyes:
     
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