COVID-19 in other countries

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  1. The Y-man

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    l suppose though , those flue numbers aren't with countries in lockdown but out ther in everyday living . So lf no one locked down in this , where would the covid numbers really be, No idea but l'd think we could safely say they'd be a lot lot more than what they are.
    ps , actually one estimate l heard earlier on in all this was 1/2 a billion to a billion deaths , but possibly a lot more .
     
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    If the death rate was 1% and everyone got it, you are going get close to 80 million deaths. But from what we are seeing in the states and other places, we can probably say the hospital systems would be overrun so the death rate would probably be higher.

    Then if immunity once you have recovered only last a few months as some reports are suggesting, you get to do it all over again.... :(

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    Can anyone get a Sweden chart up ? Amazingly it's still coming down !
     
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    Ultimately does it matter too much. Even those who die with covid are very likely to have died early as a result of being infected.

    Arguing about the numbers and breakup is a distraction, I expect by those seeking to downplay the severity. Leave that to the academics for the future. My partner is a senior academic demographer specialising in mortality and longevity. She has recently withdrawn from a reseach project as the international data is totally inconsistent between countries and any conclusions that may be drawn are at best "flakey". Excess deaths is still the best measure.
     
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    I might head off to Tasmania. Two months without a case. Nothing to sneeze at. lol.
     
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    I wouldn't turn my nose up at that
     
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    Blow that - too cold for me :p.
     
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    I don't like the idea of the older generation who fought wars for us to be left hiding out for years because we can't last a few minor lockdowns why we get Jobkeeper, Jobseeker, and everything else we basically plead for.
    Time we harden up like the old guys did.
     
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    Main reason deaths per case in Europe are in 10-15% range is that only a small proportion of infections have been detected/reported, real number is more than 10 times the official number, bringing deaths per case back down closer to the 1% seen in Australia which probably doesn't have so many undetected cases.
    e.g. Spain official number is 307,000 real number around 3 million according to this and random antibody testing. France and Italy blow this out of the water, 15-20% have been infected, like London, New York.

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    How many of us are likely to have caught the coronavirus so far?
     
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    The problem with this methodology is that they only test a couple of hundred people for antibodies and then extrapolate that over the entire population.

    The numbers are based on an assumption that infection is uniform across the population and that antibody testing is actually accurate.

    I've not read anything yet that gives me confidence that antibody testing is reliable as a measure of infection - there seem to be too many anomalies.
     
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    I now believe in miracles, although the total number of infections worldwide has increased to 14.1M, deaths have dropped to below 600K. WTF? :confused: (JHU must have updated their numbers both ways).
     
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    Australian Update (18th July)
    Statistic overview

    In the past 24 hours, there has been 233 new cases of coronavirus, taking the country's total to 11,441 with the highest number coming from Victoria.

    More than 4.3 million coronavirus tests have been conducted since coronavirus came to Australia earlier this year and more than 63,000 tests have been done in the past 24 hours.

    There are 116 people in hospital with coronavirus and 118 Australians have tragically lost their lives to the illness.

    State totals are 5353 in Victoria, 3361 in New South Wales, 1071 in Queensland, 444 in South Australia, 651 in Western Australia, 228 in Tasmania, 113 in the Australian Capital Territory and 31 in the Northern Territory.

    Every afternoon, the Federal Government publishes daily updates, including current cases by each state (please note, these stats are not as current as the ones published in the above table).


    US records world record daily cases

    According to the Johns Hopkins University tracker, which relies on official government data, the US has recorded 77,300 new coronavirus cases in 24 hours.

    This is the highest one-day total for the pandemic so far. 10 July marked the last global record increase, with 67,800 new cases in the US.

    The US, by far the worst-affected country worldwide in terms of the number of cases and deaths, has 3,576,221 confirmed infections and 138,358 fatalities.

    Brazil is next highest with 2,012,151 cases and 76,688 deaths.
     
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    Interestingly too, I was reading today that the antibodies often leave the system within 60 days but memory t cells are left behind that will rapidly produce antibody white blood cells if the virus reappears.

    This might explain why some previously infected people don't show antibodies
     
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    Agree - a bit strange!! They also admitted pretty quickly to knocking out a passenger plane out of the sky with missiles too (I was figuring on a long denial etc) !

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