COVID-19 in other countries 2022

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    I've been thinking about underreporting that everyone keeps talking about (RAT tests done at home but not added to the official stats).

    Other than countries that are flat out lying (China), is there any reason to think underreporting is any better or worse between countries?

    I reckon it's roughly the same.

    So you could probably quite safely draw comparisons between countries, in terms of increase or decrease in cases etc.

    I don't see why one country would have a notable difference in RAT test reporting. Basically, I think case numbers are still meaningful from a cross-country comparison perspective.
     
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    The issue I have with a lot of the data being produced is the inconsistencies in key figures like deaths-per-case. There are huge disparities between developed countries in how many deaths there have been for each reported case.

    COVID-19 Report - Deaths per case as of 25 Apr 2022

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    Differences in population would account for some of the discrepancies - an older population will suffer more deaths from COVID - but it shouldn't be as much as double or triple what other countries are seeing.

    Which would indicate to me that they are likely under-reporting their case numbers because they are either not testing, or the tests are not being reported.

    That being said, it is far more likely that they are simply not testing - especially given that it does cost real money to get a test in many countries - and a sizeable part of the population would probably not be able to afford it.

    Just a note that the data in my chart above covers the entire pandemic - I think it would be more accurate to be able to compare these figures using only recent data. When I get a chance I'll build a new report showing something like "last 30 days" so we can ignore what happened last year or 2020.
     
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    Hi from Beijing.

    We are confined within the grounds of the Olympic training centre. Athletes can only go outside with permission for training purposes. PCR tests are done every two days.

    Deliveries of shopping (eg I ordered some good ol' Lipton teabags) is delayed but still happening. Can't say what the rest of the city is like as I'm not allowed out the front gate for a walk.

    Fingers crossed we don't get Shanghaied.
     
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    Only about a week after I arrived back in the province of Henan, I was requested to assist the national team prepare for racing in Canada in a couple of weeks. Came to Beijing a week or so ago, and am staying at the training centre where the velodrome is. All the national track cycling team athletes live here in basic accommodation, along with the Fencing* team. They are trying to keep this as a COVID-free bubble, sealed in from the rest of the city.

    * Ironic, with all the recently installed extra fences around the place.
     
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    Some countries dont recognise RAT results (have no system to report results) and PCR testing is expensive (cost prohibitive to many).
     
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    I read something similar on the Washington Post site yesterday as well.

    The use of"excess deaths" (ie more than a statistically normal year) is possibly a much more accurate measurement than reliance on a death certificate especially in countries which didn't classify C19 as the cause not just incidental or not counted at all.
     
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    Even this measure is not entirely reliable - I believe we had zero flu deaths last year because we were all isolating and wearing masks. Such a low flu death rate is definitely not normal!

    Will be interesting to see the excess deaths measure moving forwards now that we no longer have to do those things. I suspect we're in for some bad figures for this year - flu season has come early and we're seeing more COVID deaths than ever before.
     
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    Those countries which were closed to travel would be underreported as their average would include average flu deaths but countries still accepting international travel would also be having less than normal numbers of flu deaths as well.
     
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    Stats from around the world, comparing only "high income" economies with at least 500K population.



    COVID-19 Report - Total cases as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #10 out of 47 countries with 6.25M cases (up from #11 a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Average daily new cases as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #4 out of 47 countries with 41.9K daily cases (up from #6 a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Population infection rate as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #29 out of 47 countries with 24.65% of the population infected (up from #30 a week ago)





    COVID-19 Report - Total deaths as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #27 out of 47 countries with 7.51K deaths (same ranking as a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Average daily deaths as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #8 out of 47 countries with 37.9 deaths per day (up from #12 a week ago)



    COVID-19 Report - Deaths per million population as of 7 May 2022

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    • Australia #40 out of 47 countries with 296.1 deaths per million population (same ranking as a week ago)
     
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    FYI - here are the (high income) countries which have done better than Australia when measured as deaths per million population:
    • Taiwan
    • New Zealand
    • United Arab Emirates
    • Japan
    • Singapore
    • Qatar
    • Saudi Arabia

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    Taiwan will unfortunately catch up soon.

    Relaxed rules, opening up borders, with relatively lower vaccination that Australia.... 50,000+ cases yesterday alone... :(

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    Not that much lower vax rate in Taiwan though, 79% vs 84% Australia.
    Vax rate doesn't seem to be a big factor in new cases, seems like the places that avoided covid in 2020/2021 are catching up fast with much higher rates of infection.
    Maybe previous infections play a bigger part in new infections than vax rate.
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    Yup but post-80% vaccination, the death rate in theory should be a lot lower.

    "Catch up" only in terms of cases, not deaths. To me that's a great outcome.
     
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    Yes, i'm with you on this. And maybe the current strains are a less likely to kill (I don't know the actual facts on this though)
     
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    From the NY Times.

    How Australia Saved Thousands of Lives While Covid Killed a Million Americans
    (Bearing in mind that their death toll has just passed 1 million).

     
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    Stats from around the world, comparing only "high income" economies with at least 500K population.



    COVID-19 Report - Total cases as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia #10 out of 47 countries with 7.24M cases (same rank as a week ago)





    COVID-19 Report - Average daily new cases as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia #3 out of 47 countries with 37.1K daily cases (up from #4 a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Population infection rate as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia #24 out of 47 countries with 28.55% of the population infected (up from #25 a week ago)





    COVID-19 Report - Total deaths as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia at #27 out of 47 countries with 8.47K deaths (same rank as a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Average daily deaths as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia at #7 out of 47 countries with 51.6 deaths per day (up from #9 a week ago)




    COVID-19 Report - Deaths per million population as of 29 May 2022

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    • Australia #40 out of 47 countries with 333.9 deaths per million population (same rank as a week ago)