COVID-19 in other countries 2021

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  1. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

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    Wow - things appear to be going from bad to worse in the US. Four days ago, Idaho declared a State of Crisis of Care ... basically means that there is no guarantee you'll get treatment if required - such as:
    • Not being prioritized for the limited resources (such as a bed or a ventilator) or treatments available. In other words, patients with a greater likelihood of surviving their illness may be given a critical care bed or ventilator over patients less likely to survive
    Crisis Standards of Care | Idaho Department of Health and Welfare

    Reading further into their accompany documents to find out "what is defined as Standards of Care" ... rather confronting. If you come in with a heart attack, or serious car accident, or any other perhaps fatal/perhaps survivable incident you are NOT to be resuscitated (DNR) ... wow

    Kinda glad we live where we live, with government (and most people) taking the virus threat seriously
     
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    This is quite amazing.
    Too bad it's not part of the standard reading material of the "do your own research" camp....
     
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  3. Simon Hampel

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    Not exactly a meaningful statistic - when adjusted for population growth, the 1918 flu killed the equivalent of 2.2 million people in today's figures - significantly more than the 675 thousand deaths from COVID so far. Makes for a good headline though!


    More Americans lost to coronavirus than 1918 flu pandemic, data reveals

    More Americans have now died from COVID-19 than the number who succumbed to the 1918 flu pandemic, according to new data.

    The latest grim milestone comes as the country is experiencing a fourth wave driven by the highly contagious Delta variant, with low vaccination uptake in many regions the main cause of death.

    Johns Hopkins University tracker showed 675,722 US coronavirus deaths as of Friday, which surpasses the 675,000 US deaths during the influenza outbreak that began in the last year of World War I.

    All told, some 50 million died worldwide in the flu pandemic — sometimes inaccurately referred to as the "Spanish flu" — making it the deadliest event in human history, according to epidemiologists.

    That far exceeds global COVID deaths so far — around 4.7 million.

    But the United States has borne a disproportionate 14 per cent of those fatalities, despite making up only 5 per cent of the world's population.

    The American population in 1918 was less than a third of what it is now, meaning the flu deaths would be equivalent to some 2.2 million in today's terms.

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    Key points:
    • The United States has borne a disproportionate number of COVID-19 fatalities, despite making up only 5 per cent of the world's population
    • About 24 per cent of US adults have not yet received their first dose of a coronavirus vaccine yet
    • Uptake has been hit by a polarised political climate and what experts call an epistemological crisis
     
  4. Casteller

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    Latest Bloomberg Covid resilience ranking, Europe now dominates, Ireland and Spain the top two.
    Number one a year ago New Zealand dropped to 38, Australia at 34. Main differences amount of openness and vaccination. Australia seems on track for vax but not openness yet.

    The Best and Worst Places to Be as We Learn to Live With Delta

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  7. Simon Hampel

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    I commented last year on Singapore's migrant workers and the dormitories they live in - seems the severe restrictions on them are having a significant impact on them personally, especially compared to the "general" population.

    Singapore's COVID cases are surging and migrant workers are forbidden from mingling with the public

    Key points:
    • Singapore's coronavirus daily infections are at their highest since the pandemic began
    • The nation's 300,000 migrant workers are not allowed to mingle with the general population
    • A pilot scheme offering day trips to small groups of foreign workers has been criticised
    Despite the population's 82 per cent double vaccination rate, Singapore's ministry of health recorded 2,236 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, its highest number since the beginning of the pandemic, with 515 infections from migrant worker dormitories.

    Having tried to open up earlier this month after becoming one of the world's most vaccinated countries, Singapore has had to reimpose strict restrictions, even though severe illness and deaths — just 85 fatalities in a population of 5.7 million — remain relatively low.

    But with 30 of the deaths reported this month, authorities this week cut the limit on public gatherings from five people to two, including for restaurant meals.​
     
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    That doesn’t bode well for Australia’s plan to open up.
     
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    That doesn't bode well for my plans to fly home to ADL via Singapore!
     
  10. Lizzie

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    Agree @Lizzie however the article highlights a healthy 28 yr old weighing a mere 300lbs (only 136kgs :eek:) - obese by BMI measurements

    It does however highlight the resistance of the population to have the vaccine due to political ideals &/or misinformation.
     
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    Asian success? Singapore has locked down again, despite high vaccination rates - to 24 October. Jump in Singapore COVID-19 cases despite 80 per cent vaccination

    I believe that Y-man was actually saying that the current Victorian issues are due to complacency and lockdown fatigue.
     
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    hmmm, ive been following singapore until about a week or two ago, didnt realise their cases had gone so high, they adopted the approach of living with covid rather than eliminating it, their people generally are quite compliant (despite complaining 24 hours a day about everything),

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    Singapore
    9.4M

    4.53M

    79.7%

    with a vaccination rate of 79%, it sounds like Aus cases even if we get to 80% might not yield the results we are hoping for
     
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  16. Gockie

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    But they also have essential migrant workers living in cramped crowded homes, that’s not so typical for Australia. But it sounds like we might still have lockdown - end lockdown - lockdown cycles…. Not good. Luckily there are treatments in the pipeline….
     
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    what I found very strange about singapore, from the media and the tone of the general people is that those cramped migrants in those towers are "essentially" not counted.

    ive seen/read so many times where they say "todays covids cases are only 3 cases local and 200 in the migrant areas"

    I still to this day do not understand that, a disease doesnt discriminate, in fact you should be more aware of them because they are more population dense and likely to disregard the rules!
     
  18. Gockie

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    So this is where Singapore is stuffing up. For Sydney, a lot of attention was put on the low income/migrant areas where the virus was really spreading. Locals didn’t like it, but I’m sure this special attention was a key to the outbreak not getting significantly larger.
     
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    this is one key differenes between australia and most asian countries. many aussies are too busy screaming human rights and discrimination to even consider the bigger picture
     
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  20. Gockie

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    USA residents and some Victorians. I’d actually say we’ve had (surprisingly?) low numbers of this problem in Sydney in this regard…. Maybe “discrimination”, yes, human rights, no.
     

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