Could NSW benefit from VIC knockdown with net positive migration?

Penrith itself is not very nice. Its ok but not very nice and Brutally cold in Winter and extremely hot in Summer.

 

For the same amount, Melbourne provides a way better location property comparing to Sydney. Despite the relative same median house price, many suburbs in mel only cost 60-70% the Sydney price for the same property type within the same proximity to CBD

Not sure if 10-20% pay rise worth the move from Mel to Sydney. I and my partner planned to to cut my salary ~10k each to move to Me before the covid hit

 

Really it’s like 1 degree different to liverpool!?

 

I don't live in Liverpool.
I think of Liverpool region much the same.


So lets substitute


Liverpool itself is not very nice. Im happy to invest in places that i dont ahve to live in myself but I beleive have strong growth drivers.


People dont aspire to live in Penrith or Liveprool.

They provide amenity and train lines to the CBD and are mini CBDs. Liverpool will become a very large center when the new airport comes online.

Its not my opinion its what is planned by the government .

 

The points stands. You are spruiking Lurnea at every opportunity but then talk down an area with similar disadvantages

 

Remarkable how ppl are Speculating on capital gains , in the middle of a pandemic , where an exponentially spreading virus is forming clusters

 

We are fighting a losing battle with the virus before getting an safe and effective vaccine. Human need to do everything perfectly to hold the front line, but as long as one simple mistake, everything goes to shxt. We have multiple examples now, the latest one is Auckland. The margin for errors is simply too thin.

I would said nowhere is safe, it is not where but when would outbreaks happen. Now from the hindsight, those Swedish might gamble this right....

 

yeah they are the higher end bogans.

 

Have you spent time in Geelong? I think its a lovely place and 700k your getting into a nice house and location there

 

So whilst I originally laughed at this idea I have now had 3 friends say if the OmniBill passes they will 100% be leaving Victoria for good and signaled they would move to QLD.

Im confident it won’t but WOW this is scary stuff.

 

Ok, I dunno what OmniBill is...

 

It's a good point, if you're looking for a sea change why would you go to another big city with the same population / congestion problems as Melbourne.

 

Just Google it and have a read.
Insane levels of power.

 

Nothing relevant comes up in my googling

 

Read the document, had to read it a couple of times to get my head around. Very grim and scary reading.

 

Sorry should have been more clear with the name

@Gockie read over the link Y-MAN posted.
You could then appreciate why a lot of people will actually consider leaving Victoria under this government. I myself will consider it as I don’t want my child raised in a place with laws such as this.

 

Care to summarise?

 

Sure. Basically anyone can arrest and detain anybody under suspicion of being a “super spreader”. A super spreader as they say it may be someone like a protestor. Heck you might even like a post you shouldn’t.

Just think about the utter abuse this gets opened up to. You will have vigilante groups operating under the protection of the bill.

 

Sure. Read section 200A. Honestly, if you are an Australian Citizen, take the time to read this document.

It cedes power to the CHO, under areas designated as a state of emergency (which is currently metro Melbourne)

Allows 'authorised officers' - which is not just police (think ticket inspectors). The power to detain anyone with COVID or anyone they think that has been in contact with someone that has COVID.

They (authorised officers) need to review the detained file every 24 hours to conclude if 'authorised officer reasonably believes that the person is a high-risk person who is likely to refuse or fail to comply with the direction'

'likely'. That is some minority report stuff, right there.

We know 3 things about Victoria in 2020
1. Hired support is woefully untrained, with embarrassing policies and procedures (security guards)
2. Contact tracing is a joke, with management stubborn on accepting training and assistance
3. The government, Vic Pol and CHO are not afraid to abuse their power

This bill combines the three and assumes all three parties will execute their roles property.

Also amending 120(1) of the Crimes Act 1997 is interesting reading. Expands powers, to rule based on written submissions only (no appearance required in court). Given the stellar record of the Victorian courts, what could possibly go wrong with ruling on a written submission (prepared by their lawyers) in determining the risk of the individual to the community?