CoronaVirus - Possible Vaccines and Treatments

Did it say he "had" to sell?

 

Thanks @geoffw. I guess damned if you, damned if you don't.

 

I read somewhere that there was a set date and if the stock reached a price point of xxx.
I guess it did, which is why he sold.

 

Does anyone else wonder exactly what the Aus Govco are agreeing to when entering into agreements to buy "X million" doses of a viable vaccine from different companies

In the news we have previously agreed to buy from several different sources should their product be successful and approved for use, so "if" each of these vaccines get approved for use are we locked in to purchase/pay regardless

If Govco decide to go with yet another "more successful" vaccine from yet another pharma company, what happens to the former agreements ?
We have likely had to pay a substantial deposit to lock in these agreements (to assist with research), are these refundable if the pharma company isn't successful ?

It's kinda doubling (tripling) up isn't it, it could cost many millions to buy doses we won't even use

 

They have to go thru a 2 month "post inoculation" period to make sure there are no after effects ... don't want people dropping dead at the 6 weeks marker ... however it does look the most viable, purely due to transportability.

Storage at -20 (instead of -70), can last in a normal fridge for 30 days, a normal freezer for 6 months, and at room temperature for 24 hours

 

Possibly because different vaccines are proving to be more effective for different age groups, also want to have all bases covered in case one fails at the last hurdle ... I'd also like to think that if we end up with too many, being a wealthy county, we'd share some of them with out poorer Pacific neighbours

However, cost could be a deciding factor with Moderna costing around $60-70 per vaccination (2 doses) - with Pfizer not much cheaper - and the Oxford one predicted to cost around $10 per vaccination

 

I think multiple options are necessary to cover the population. Some vaccines may eventually be differentiated from others as being better tolerated by certain individuals or more effective than others in certain situations. Individuals will have more choices to choose from. Already storage and transportation of the Pfizer vaccine is a critical factor for remote areas.

 

Spain will be making the Moderna doses outside the US for international markets, but only 24% of Spaniards would take it asap, most prefer to wait and see. Some reluctance to take something created so quickly, understandable.

 

Sounds like a contract to me, one that should be honoured, regardless of failure IMO. I think that’s the risk pharma companies took to carry out these trials in warp speed. Don’t forget, most of the phase 1-3 studies were done in parallel, when normally they would be done sequentially. Also, there was large amount of investment needed to start producing these drugs without the final results. Obviously, there was a need to do it this way, but these companies took on these risk, with the potential of huge losses if the drug didn’t eventuate. Many of the governments asked them to do this, so taking on some of the risks themselves is only fair.
The Aus government is also taking on any litigations that may come from any potential harm of the vaccines. Just the way it goes.

 

Imagine , the country with must be the worst record in all this , brings out 2 vacs to save the world, how ironic.
Wonder if reporters will remember Trump saying 6 or 7 wks back - "Covid Covid don't worry about Covid we'll be taking care of that very very soon, possibly Nov Dec ".
He could come out of this a bloody hero.
Not a bad swan song must admit , only Trump could manage that one.

PS , meanwhile , they actually showed them loading the body semis today and the inside, loaded, my God !

 

Does seem suspicious

 

Just think, the virus mutates and makes the current 90 odd % successful vaccines basically useless...