CoronaVirus - Possible Vaccines and Treatments

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  1. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately we haven't bought enough of the Pfizer vaccine...instead leaning heavily towards AZ and the UQ one.
     
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    10 million is a good start though
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    That's hedging bets. Not putting a dependency on one single vaccine. It's probably a good strategy.
     
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    We should've placed orders for more variants including Moderna's.
     
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  5. Simon Hampel

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    Given how limited the rollout of the Pfizer vaccine is going to be due to the storage requirements - it's probably a sensible choice.
     
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    Enough for 5 million people since 2 shots required 28 days apart. Spain has 20M alloc (for 10M people), same per capita. First priority given to elderly & health workers which consumes 100% the allocation. The idea here is that the vax arrives in drums from manufacturer and the drum keeps it at -70 for 4 weeks somehow so local storage not needed.
     
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    Hopefully inovio gets clearance as their vaccine can be stored at room temperature
     
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  8. Simon Hampel

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    Refrigerated vaccines are fine - we have plenty of experience managing those in Australia.

    Assuming it is as effective as Pfizer's - the AstraZeneca vaccine will be a better choice for mass-vaccination activities due to its longer (refrigerated) shelf life.

    My guess is we'll see a combination - Pfizer's vaccine available from suitably equipped hospitals and dedicated vaccination clinics - while AstraZeneca's vaccine (or others) used for mobile mass vaccination clinics.

    The big unknown still is how long the vaccines will be effective for - it's certainly not looking like a "lifetime" vaccine - more likely up to 1 year coverage.
     
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    Yeah it'll be a combo which is what the Gov's doing as someone said hedging bets. Pretty smart move any problems and they'll have back up.
     
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    Morrison went through numbers in a conference the other day it was almost embarrassing, felt like greedy Australia considering situations in other countries. But if even half of them work they'll still have more than enough.
     
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    Not sure its greed, rather hedging bets on supply and effectiveness.

    The only form of greediness will come from anti-vaxxers jeopardizing the effectiveness of the programme.
     
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    Not necessarily- I am not an anti-Vaxxer, but won’t be getting the vaccine until I have to travel overseas. Why, because the vaccine will be approved with only 2 months safety data. People will have various reasons for not vaccinating. Not everyone gets the flu vac at the moment.
     
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  14. Lizzie

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    This pretty much covers everything that is currently going on regarding the vaccine's and where they're at:

     
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    Different vaccines will be effective for different age groups, so wise option
     
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    And hopefully they'll share the excess with our poorer Pacific neighbours
     
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    @trinity168 mentioned this earlier in the thread. Both stories quoted state that the sales were in accordance with a pre determined trading plan, adopted August 19 - a way for employees to sell shares without falling afoul of insider trading rules. I don't think there's anything untoward here.
     
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    Timing seems off
     
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  20. geoffw

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    The timing was set in August.
     
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